It's my belief that when you miscue and cause the cueball to jump into the air, that you just committed a foul by scooping the ball, which is an illegal jump-shot. I know it may have been an honest mistake, but I can see some people trying to get away with a cheap safety by doing this. I was watching Steve Morre playing Dennis Hatch on propoolvideo.com and Steve accidentally miscued on the 7-ball in the 19th game. I think Dennins should have had ball-in-hand, but it didn't matter as he had an easy shot to get out. Let me know what you think.
Rule question regarding a miscue.
- Thread starter Big C
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It may well be that the ferrule hits the cue ball on some miscues. This has been shown on ultra-high-speed video such as the Jacksonville Project. However, the rules people have decided that unless the ferrule slap is clear, a miscue is treated as a normal shot if the miscue was unintentional.Big C said:
I think you understand the rules by the way you stated your question, but just incase someone else reads this lets make sure things are clear.
To intentionally scoop the ball to make it jump is a foul (just as you stated) but unintentional miscues are not fouls unless something else is obvious.
Although any miscue during a jump shot is automatically a foul.
To intentionally scoop the ball to make it jump is a foul (just as you stated) but unintentional miscues are not fouls unless something else is obvious.
Although any miscue during a jump shot is automatically a foul.
Although any miscue during a jump shot is automatically a foul.
I never heard that before. So if I miscue and the ball doesn't even jump I get a foul?
I never heard that before. So if I miscue and the ball doesn't even jump I get a foul?
Harvywallbanger said:
I don't think so.
Anyway, in the video that this thread is refering to, I saw the same thing; the miscue caused the cueball to hop cueing low. I have asked this same question on another forum, and got no results. It actually IS a double-hit, but I haven't made a point of calling it on anyone. If it should be called, I'd call it, but I don't want to be perceived as the a-hole who calls foul on everything. In that match, two big sticks let it go, so until further notice, I guess I'll let it go...
Harvywallbanger said:
Yes, at least in BCA World Standardized Rules.
3.27 JUMP SHOTS
Unless otherwise stated in rules for a specific game it is legal to cause the cue ball to rise off the bed of the table by elevating the cue stick on the shot, and forcing the cue ball to rebound from the bed of the table. Any miscue when executing a jump shot is a foul.
Every player , who is the least serious bit serious about the game should take the time to read and understand the rules. That way you KNOW what they are and do not have to rely on the advice of other uninformed sources. You can take advantage of the rules if you know them.
GADawg said:
Wow!!! I've been playing pool my whole life and never heard of or seen this rule executed. Granted I've never played in a pro tourny but still I find that rule shocking. I still won't call it on someone though.
Chances are if you or anyone is shooting a jumpshot and miscue - it is going to be a foul anyways. If you miscue I doubt you are going to be hitting your object ball afterwards so it would result in an obvious foul. I might be misunderstanding what is going on so if I am would someone set me straight.Harvywallbanger said:
BVal said:
Yeah your right. When you think about it if you go for a jump and miscue it is going to be a foul anyways...unless your playing 8 ball and you get one of your object balls to a rail...but yeah your point is well taken. Probably why I and (probably) most people never even considered this rule.