Rules question texas express 9 ball

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Dave Mackay

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Hope you can help on this one......

I was emailed this question by a friend

Rule clarification if you can help me or reference me. Does Texas express nine ball rules still apply to most nine ball? Question is my opponent broke down his cue after breaking and scratching last night in the final game of the match. He did this in my eyesight line and has a uni loc cue and with violant motion like three twists of the cue in front of me as I approached the table. Can you reference this for me and show me this somewhere in print if this constitutes loss of game in most normal situations?

He stated that only applies to tourney play and I said no it applies period.

Any input would be appreciated,

Cheers
 
Dave Mackay said:
Hope you can help on this one......

I was emailed this question by a friend

Rule clarification if you can help me or reference me. Does Texas express nine ball rules still apply to most nine ball? Question is my opponent broke down his cue after breaking and scratching last night in the final game of the match. He did this in my eyesight line and has a uni loc cue and with violant motion like three twists of the cue in front of me as I approached the table. Can you reference this for me and show me this somewhere in print if this constitutes loss of game in most normal situations?

He stated that only applies to tourney play and I said no it applies period.

Any input would be appreciated,

Cheers
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If your matching up, the rules should always be 'clear' before you start, when a rule in question comes up and neither of you clarified it before starting, I would flip a coin. Now since it sounds like you were not down on the shot and in the motion of shooting it would probably be good business to not shoot and say that action is the same as throwing in the towel or at least costing your opponent a game. It sounds like the guy was obviously trying to distract you, I find this type of person "bad action" and would recommend not playing him again unless this person constantly is donating to your pocket, where in that case I would always let him win any argument with a smile. People like this are a dime a dozen.
 
I know what you are saying Island Drive, if playing someone new i do check rules and will play whatever they want it always makes the win better LOL

This was a friends question though and i'm not sure if they clarified every detail or just said texas express they seem to be differing over wether the rules are different between tournament and just matching up?

I found a break down of the rules as follows the contention is marked in red.

USPPA 9 BALL RULES - PRO EXPRESS

Cue ball fouls only, except when an object ball has been knocked off the table. The object ball is not spotted, and the opponent has ball in hand anywhere on the table.

One push out, only after the break.

If your opponent scratches on the break, it is ball in hand anywhere on the table.

Any ball off the table is ball in hand anywhere on the table.

Three fouls in a row by the same player results in loss of game.

There are no object ball fouls. If you move or touch an object ball or balls, your opponent has the option to leave them where they are, or put them back where they were.

Remain seated and quiet when your opponent is at the table. Do not break down your cue when your opponent is at the table.

Lag or flip for break. Scratch on the lag is loss of the lag.

Winner breaks.

Player must hit the one ball on the break to start the game.
A legal break occurs when the one ball is struck first, and at least 5 balls are driven to a rail. If this does not occur, you must re-rack and break again.

Remember, when you lose a match, the tournament director may require you to mark a score sheet for the next match.

If an object ball or the cue ball should stop at the edge of a pocket, and you get up to take your turn and that ball falls in the pocket, that ball is then put back near the edge of the pocket. You may now take your turn at the table.

With Texas Express Rules, all object balls stay down except the nine ball!

Shoot all nine balls! Never give up the game with balls remaining.
 
Was This Cue His Break Cue??? Or His Shooting Cue????breaking Cue No Foul, Shooting Cue Lose Of Game!!!!stick
 
Is there any others that can offer some input on this one please as i'm wondering if there is regional variations?
 
It's a forfeit IMHO. It really depends on the situation for me whether or not I'll use something like that. I'd give them a warning along the lines of "you know that that's considered a forfeit for future reference" and keep on shooting if I feel gracious. If I don't think I can run them out though and it's the final match, definately use it! :)
 
Texas Express Official 9-Ball Rules

7.2: Game Concession
A player may not concede a shot or game at any time. If a player concedes a shot or game, the penalty is loss of that rack and the loss of an additional game (the next rack). If an opponent begins or completes the act of breaking down their cue stick while the player at the table is on the hill (potential final game of the match for player shooting), it will be considered a concession by the opponent and a loss of the game and/or match. Any other action by the opponent that is determined to be a concession (while on hill game) will result in a loss of game/match.

This was the rule years ago. I'm not sure if it is the most current rule, but what I had stored on my hard drive.

Rick
 
hustlefinger said:
Texas Express Official 9-Ball Rules

7.2: Game Concession
A player may not concede a shot or game at any time. If a player concedes a shot or game, the penalty is loss of that rack and the loss of an additional game (the next rack). If an opponent begins or completes the act of breaking down their cue stick while the player at the table is on the hill (potential final game of the match for player shooting), it will be considered a concession by the opponent and a loss of the game and/or match. Any other action by the opponent that is determined to be a concession (while on hill game) will result in a loss of game/match.

This was the rule years ago. I'm not sure if it is the most current rule, but what I had stored on my hard drive.

Rick
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This was always the Rule I played by also.

Breaking a cue down while someone is shooting is "Sharking" and that is Bad sportsmanship. He's a LOSER.:D

Great post, I left you some rep points.:)
 
Wait a sec... this guy broke down his shooting cue? What was he going to do if your friend missed? Either 1. have to put his cue back together 2. Go grab a house cue or 3. Ask your friend if he could borrow his cue. #1 is just redundant, #2 is a waste of time and #3 is just plain out of the question. Unless he was changing shafts; which by the way one must always inform ones opponent in any serious game, it's a forfeit IMO whether or not the rules were discussed b4 hand.
 
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