Rules Question

woody_968

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This happend during league the other day and wasnt sure what should have been done.

A player was reaching over the table to shoot (playing 8 ball) and while standing up after the shot he stuck the 5 ball with his hand. None of the balls in motion made contact with the five ball, or passed through the area the five ball was moved from. So it didnt change the shot in question.

The problem came when the five ball (which was only moved by his hand or cue) came back and struck the 8 ball and they both went into the corner pocket.

Would this fall under the rule of pocketing the 8 ball out of turn? If not, should the 8 be spotted or replaced in its original position? If the game is not over should the five be spotted? Would the opponent get ball in hand?

This also brought up the conversation of cueball fouls only. I was under the impression that even under cueball foul only rules if more than one ball is accidentally moved it is still considered a foul, but was unable to find it in the rulebook. Am I missing it or has this rule been changed?

How would you rule it under the BCA ruleset?

Woody
 
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woody_968 said:
... The problem came when the five ball (which was only moved by his hand or cue) came back and struck the 8 ball and they both went into the corner pocket. ...
I think the rules aren't perfectly clear about what to do when spasticity pockets a ball. Usually, when playing "CB fouls only," the non-offending player gets to choose whether the balls go back or stay where they are. That choice is not possible when a ball has been swept into a pocket, and IIRC the rules do not specify an alternative choice. I would say that the balls must go back to where they started, and the shot is not a foul under "CB fouls only." A reasonable alternative is to spot the pocketed balls if the non-offender chooses to not move the balls back.

I think it is better to play "all fouls" though. This is not much more prone to arguments than judging bad hits.
 
i'm the kid who was there with a few sticks for sale, i was mostly hanging around jack for the night. me and him played 8 ball on the table by the counter after league... if you watched me shoot you probably werent impressed :) i was in there again tonight right after the tourney started with a very good looking girl (why else would i have been late?) and we left after about an hour.
 
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