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tonythetiger583

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I keep hearing every so often that you should be hitting the majority of your shots with the same stroke (speed I guess?), and you control your position with where you place your tip.

I think I kind of get it for straight backward and forwards, but what about cut shots?

Does it mean that I have to use inside or outside to hold or widen to use the same stroke?

I'd just really like more clarification and detail.
 
You don't have to do it that way. I would imagine that it you wanted to go that route, angles would be your best friend. Less angle means less cue ball travel, more angle means more cue ball travel. You could then use varying degrees of English to fine tune it all.
 
tonythetiger583 said:
I keep hearing every so often that you should be hitting the majority of your shots with the same stroke (speed I guess?), and you control your position with where you place your tip.

I think I kind of get it for straight backward and forwards, but what about cut shots?

Does it mean that I have to use inside or outside to hold or widen to use the same stroke?

I'd just really like more clarification and detail.
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I believe this to be talking about varying the length of your backswing. This will lead to more or less power , respectively , being generated using the same amount of speed to your stroke.

I am not sure if that is clear the way I phrased it. Using same stroke speed, shoot shots pulling the cue back 8" vs 4" and follow through same distance. With the longer stroke, the cue has more time to accelerate.
 
tonythetiger583 said:
I keep hearing every so often that you should be hitting the majority of your shots with the same stroke (speed I guess?), and you control your position with where you place your tip.

I think I kind of get it for straight backward and forwards, but what about cut shots?

Does it mean that I have to use inside or outside to hold or widen to use the same stroke?

I'd just really like more clarification and detail.
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Can you provide a source for this? It doesn't make any sense to me to say you control position with where you place your tip and everything else is the same. How hard you hit the ball is probably the most important part of position play.
 
tonythetiger583 said:
I keep hearing every so often that you should be hitting the majority of your shots with the same stroke (speed I guess?), and you control your position with where you place your tip.

I think I kind of get it for straight backward and forwards, but what about cut shots?

Does it mean that I have to use inside or outside to hold or widen to use the same stroke?

I'd just really like more clarification and detail.
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I would be one that says yes a majority of your strokes should be about the same speed as this gives you consistency and allows you to better learn control based on a foundation that you are familiar with. This goes for both the cue ball and the object ball as you learn that hitting X% of an object ball only moves it Y, yet the cue ball travels Z.

Clearly there are times you must adjust your stroke speed to hold or widen. I would first look to see if I can use the rail or a combination of rail with top spin or bottom spin and do that with a more natural stroke speed. Then if absolutely needed, I would incorporate side and a different speed.
 
I would say no. There are so many nuances to stroke speed & English applied for a myriad of shots.

I don't think this can be described. It must be learned through experience.
 
Maybe 70% of you're shot's would be possible, but I don't see how you could do this all the time.

This sounds like someone discussing straight pool strategies, definitely not rotation pool.
 
Stroke speed and cue ball speed aren't the same thing (which I know everybody knows). Changing the stroke length/bridge length is the easiest way to reduce cue ball speed while maintaining cue speed.
 
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