Sawdust Custom Cues out of Singapore

My cue is not that thin at all- Sawdust- that cannot be true- what measurement area on the cue butt are you talking about- if anything, the butt of my Sawdust no wrap cue is a bit larger in circumference than the usual- Are you talking diameter at the bumper area of cue butt circumference?

These are two entirely different measurements.
 
My cue is not that thin at all- Sawdust- that cannot be true- what measurement area on the cue butt are you talking about- if anything, the butt of my Sawdust no wrap cue is a bit larger in circumference than the usual- Are you talking diameter at the bumper area or cue butt circumference?

These are two entirely different measurements. I handle a lot of different higher end cues all the time- no doubt in my mind that, for the money, Sawdust is one of the top picks out there right now, and dealing with Jack Tan is as good as it gets in dealing with any cue maker today. I did not say it was one of the best cues being made today- it is an excellent cue in every judgement category, and much more cue for the money than just about any cue being made today by a one man cue shop. MY opinion and experience with Jack and his cues.
 
My cue is not that thin at all- Sawdust- that cannot be true- what measurement area on the cue butt are you talking about- if anything, the butt of my Sawdust no wrap cue is a bit larger in circumference than the usual- Are you talking diameter at the bumper area or cue butt circumference? These are two entirely different measurements.

I don't know any cuemakers or players who specify butt thickness as a circumference. In any case, a butt with a 1.23" circumference would have a diameter that is 0.39", so no, I'm not talking about the butt's circumference.

I handle a lot of different higher end cues all the time- no doubt in my mind that, for the money, Sawdust is one of the top picks out there right now, and dealing with Jack Tan is as good as it gets in dealing with any cue maker today. I did not say it was one of the best cues being made today- it is an excellent cue in every judgement category, and much more cue for the money than just about any cue being made today by a one man cue shop. MY opinion and experience with Jack and his cues.

I contacted Sawdust cues, and I asked them if they could make me a cue with a 1.29 inch butt (measured at the very end of the butt, which is where I hold a 58" cue). This was their response:

Our cues are on the slimmer side with the butt measuring about 1.23” at the base (buttcap)
 
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I really don't understand any of this as making sense - When I measure the diameter of a cue butt end with bumper removed- most cues seem to fall in the 1.25 inch range- end to end at the back end of the cue. How in the world is 1.29 inches so much of a difference from 1.23 inches in diameter? We are talking .06 inches in diameter- one cue could not possibly be "toothpick " thin and another in a normal range with only .06 inches in difference in cue butt end diameter.
 
Im glad i bought it from sawdust. My first custom cue. Just tried a few shots and it feel really good. Finishes are great. The kielwood is really nice. Over a good start for custom. Shall rack up more racks with this cue. For those who love how slim a mezz cue butt is, you will for sure love this. If you have not try his own line cue tip. Give it a try. It have a firm hit and very grippy
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I own a Sawdust. I think that I can help you decide. First, Jack Tan, the cue maker is as good as it gets in terms of communication and honesty. Second, the cues are constructed very well, mine is wrap less with veneered points, just a great looking cue! Third, Jack offers traditional maple, Kielwood, low deflection maple, and carbon shafts for his cues. Jack's pre 2022 plain maple shafts did not have enough shaft taper for most players and I had mine cut down to 12.5MM with a 14 inch pro taper and they played so much better- he now offers a pro taper and I have his low deflection plain maple shaft with the new taper from Jack- plays just fine!

Jack usually or can adapt his cues to his own rear bumper extensions- my cue came to me with a rear extension from Jack- the original extension was 7 inches and I bought from Jack a 4 inch add on extension that screwed right into the existing 7 inch extension piece.

I do not prefer leather wraps on cues and Asian leather wraps tend to be rather slick- so I chose a Sawdust wrap less cue- your choice . I never saw an original Sawdust linen wrapped cue- cannot comment on that.

My cue is 3/8 10 pin, phenolic insert in the shafts, Jack makes great cue tips as well, the hit is firm, crisp, very solid but not dead- very good feedback through the handle area - if a Scruggs cue is a 9.5 on firmness of hit- Jack's cue is about an 8 on 10- which is my personal preference - using a medium hardness tip. The cue is not whippy, and it is not a dull thud on the other end of the spectrum- again- expect firmness, expect feedback, expect something solid in your hands.

No complaints on his cue- had it for about a year now, played about 100 hours with it including tournament play. I have 35 + years experience with over 50 true custom cue makers as well as all the past production makers. I like the cue a lot- will stay in my current stable of custom cues- which is fairly small at this point in my life- I have about 7 different makes left in my cases.

Hope that this helps you!
A very well detailed explanation and description.
 
I never updated this post after I finally received my Sawdut cue as things didn't turn out that great and I am updating this post to maybe educate buyers on what they buy and most importantly where was it built and where you live.

I traded a Schon for a upper-tier Sawdust segmented cue. It certainly looked great and I trusted the seller so I shipped out my schon and he sent me his Sawdust cue. I think it's note worthy to mention the seller lived in Arizona and I live in NY, why am I including this will be releavant shortly.

The cue arrived fine and as soon as I unboxed it I could tell there were issues with seperation, specifically at the metal rings Jack uses on his segemented cues.

The seperation was so noticeable you coud actually measure it with a micrometer. I contacted the seller and asked him if he was aware of the seperation on the cue and of course he said no. I'm not sure if it's possible to have that much shrinkage occur in 2 day shipping but I guess it's possible.

When I asked the seller what he suggested I do, he told me to contact Jack Chan as he is a great cuemaker and would take care of it. I contacted Jack and he is in fact a great cuemaker with great materials and communications and he told me outright that the 2 cues he sold to the seller were sent in 100% perfect condition with no shrinkage, however the climate and humidity in Singapore are much, much different than the conditions in Arizona where the cues were shipped.

Jack said the shrinkage is due to continuing evapoation of moisture from the woods and that his aluminum rings won't shrink and would feel very proud to the touch. Jack recommended having the cue refinished not by him as it would cause the same issues again, but by a cuemaker who would peform the work in a region with similar climate to where I live.

I then asked Proficient Cues to quote me on the refinish as they are in my state and they outright refused to work on any segemented cue that was made in a tropical climate as they feel unless it was oven roaster to remove all the moisture, there will always be a bit of shrinkage and with the aluminum rings you're bound to feel them above the materials and they would not guarantee the job.

I landed up getting my cue back and sent the Sawdust back and we both were not happy with the deal as it cost money to ship and our time and we landed up with our cues again. To make matters even worse, my cue came back with some damage to the wrap, that of course the seller stated he knew nothing about and the packaging it came in was not damaged, all in all it was my last cue trade.

Lessen to be had here is be careful when buying segmented cues or cues from outside the US or in tropical climates as shrinkage is a real factor and can play a significant role in your liking of the cue or its resale capabilities.

Oddly enough, I own quite a few Meucci's with are made in Mississippi (hot, humid enviornment) and never had any seperation or shrinkage issues.
 
that was kind of my experience with a pinnoy segmented handle cue
when it was new it showed with a crack at a ring,
it wasnt warped didnt roll off at all

but i sent it back for a refinish he did the work free
but when it came back, the exact same ring was cracked again

so id have to agree with proficients claim about where it was made and how it acts
 
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