Scotch Guard on table cloth

Rambosky

"The Grunt"
Yes or no. Not sure of the quality of the cloth but would like to protect it. Don't plan on putting any drinks down on the rails but the wife might throw something at me while I'm playing. :cool:
 
No, Scotch guard on stretched cloth will make it loose its springiness and become slack. Soaking the cloth, even with water causes the wool fibers to slide against each other thereby causing the cloth to become loose. I know a pool room owner that use to brag about how he could stretch Simonis 760 cloth 5" when he installed it. I showed him that soaking the cloth with water did nothing to keep the cloth tight when stretched that far...as I slid my hand across the cloth you could see the cloth wrinkle up in front of my fingers, when I lifted my hand...they stayed right there!

Glen

PS. Have you considered scotch guarding the wife though?:D
 
Scotch Guard on the cloth...

I'm in no way promoting this product, as such, but it is my understanding that Brunswick's new Centennial Cloth (developed by the D&R Industries, Inc. folks who manufacture Championship Tour Edition cloth, el.al.) has all the qualities of stain resistance, etc...!!!
Frankly, although I don't know how the Centennial cloth plays or wears, I don't believe you can beat Championship Tour Edition cloth...I believe it's "head n' shoulders" above the playability of Simonis...!!!
 
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I am not sure if you are asking to buy cloth with scotchguard already in it or if you are going to apply it to the cloth. I know for a fact that Championship Mercury ultra cloth with scothguard is available. We used this cloth on six bar tables here in town and found that it did not play as good as the regular mercury Ultra and we did not use it again. I hope this answers your question.
Thanx, Ron
www.lccsbilliards.com
 
Centennial Cloth

I have the Brunswick Centennial cloth. I really like it. The scotch gaurd part definately works because my cat pissed on the table and it cleaned up no problem. I no longer have the cat.:D
 
realkingcobra said:
No, Scotch guard on stretched cloth will make it loose its springiness and become slack. Soaking the cloth, even with water causes the wool fibers to slide against each other thereby causing the cloth to become loose. I know a pool room owner that use to brag about how he could stretch Simonis 760 cloth 5" when he installed it. I showed him that soaking the cloth with water did nothing to keep the cloth tight when stretched that far...as I slid my hand across the cloth you could see the cloth wrinkle up in front of my fingers, when I lifted my hand...they stayed right there!

Glen

PS. Have you considered scotch guarding the wife though?:D

I brush our tables daily, and then I mist the tables lightly and use a microfiber applicator like a squeezee, the misting; like I said is very light. Does this cause a problem over time?
Thank you kindly.
 
fidget said:
I brush our tables daily, and then I mist the tables lightly and use a microfiber applicator like a squeezee, the misting; like I said is very light. Does this cause a problem over time?
Thank you kindly.
No, but the brushing does. If you don't remove the dust in the cloth with a vacuum all you're doing is spreading it around with a brush, which then filters it through the treads of the cloth until it gets under the cloth, then it sands off the bottom side of the cloth causing it to wear out from the bottom side up first.

Glen
 
LCCS said:
I am not sure if you are asking to buy cloth with scotchguard already in it or if you are going to apply it to the cloth. I know for a fact that Championship Mercury ultra cloth with scothguard is available.

Championship makes 4045 Valley Teflon which is actually Mercury Ultra with Teflon added during manufacturing. 4045 is what Valley puts on new coin-op tables. The same process is used for Centennial which is Tour Edition with Teflon added. There are several products that can be sprayed on untreated cloth to increase stain and spill resistance. These products are designed to "wick" and dry into the fibers of the cloth to create a barrier.

Generally speaking, worsted cloth such as Tour Ed and Simonis have very tight weaving which makes them "naturally" more spill resistant. A regular vacuuming as RKC mentioned will definitly help extend the life of any cloth.
 
realkingcobra said:
No, but the brushing does. If you don't remove the dust in the cloth with a vacuum all you're doing is spreading it around with a brush, which then filters it through the treads of the cloth until it gets under the cloth, then it sands off the bottom side of the cloth causing it to wear out from the bottom side up first.

Glen

Glen,
Thank you for the information. I was wondering how often a table should be vacuumed. Every day after play? And is there a vacuum that works best?
Thank you kindly for sharing.
 
fidget said:
Glen,
Thank you for the information. I was wondering how often a table should be vacuumed. Every day after play? And is there a vacuum that works best?
Thank you kindly for sharing.
5 times a day wouldn't hurt...LOL And I use a Sears shop vac with a 7" brush, it can be used to clean other things as well.

Glen
 
I'm talking about the spray on Scotchgard in a can that one would use for upholstery. I heard that it might make the cloth hard which in turn would make the balls run fast.

Any expeirence with this?
 
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I would not spray the cloth. I would say that it would do exactly the opposite and make it play slow. I will say the cloth we used with the scothguard in it did not last very long.
Thanx, Ron
 
Rambosky said:
I'm talking about the spray on Scotchgard in a can that one would use for upholstery. I heard that it might make the cloth hard which in turn would make the balls run fast. Any expeirence with this?

Can't comment on store bought scotchguard but I do know that Fabricoate (in a spray can) works without speeding up or slowing down ball roll. We've used it and have customers that bought it with no complaints.
I personally wouldn't put anything on the cloth - then again if you don't allow drinks on or near the table the likelihood of a spill is 0. You could also post a sign - no wives within 50' :D
 
Rambosky said:
I'm talking about the spray on Scotchgard in a can that one would use for upholstery. I heard that it might make the cloth hard which in turn would make the balls run fast.

Any experience with this?
I've used it in the past at the request of a room owner, not my idea. Later noticed the cloth came loose.

Glen

PS. If you have any spills on your cloth, clean it with Woolite in water, and a damp rag. Works good.
 
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