Scruggs Sneaky Help

[Celophanewrap]

So I have this Scruggs Sneaky that I bought about 15 or so years ago. I keep looking at all the Scruggs stuff that folks put up for sale and the different strings of Sneakys that appear every so often paying close attention to the Scruggs and the Frey cues but I have yet to see one that matches mine. I was wondering, many of you are Scruggs collectors and experts, I understand that Tim Scruggs didn't make many of his own Sneakys, was my likely a Frey produced cue or by someone else in his shop? Is there any way to tell from looking at it. I've included a few photos if anyone would care to give me an opinion, it's that wood joint, I can't find that on other TS cues. Please excuse if this has been covered before.
Many thanks!

 

[rustystrokes]

Most of Tim's sneaky Pete cue were cut down house cues. Very few were wood to wood. Still a great cue no matter how it is put together!

 

[Lock N Load]

So I have this Scruggs Sneaky that I bought about 15 or so years ago. I keep looking at all the Scruggs stuff that folks put up for sale and the different strings of Sneakys that appear every so often paying close attention to the Scruggs and the Frey cues but I have yet to see one that matches mine. I was wondering, many of you are Scruggs collectors and experts, I understand that Tim Scruggs didn't make many of his own Sneakys, was my likely a Frey produced cue or by someone else in his shop? Is there any way to tell from looking at it. I've included a few photos if anyone would care to give me an opinion, it's that wood joint, I can't find that on other TS cues. Please excuse if this has been covered before.
Many thanks!

Very nice cue,
Merry Christmas to you and the family.
Many Regards,
Lock N Load.

 

[Donny Lutz]

Scruggs/Frey

Most of Tim's sneaky Pete cue were cut down house cues. Very few were wood to wood. Still a great cue no matter how it is put together!

I believe that Bob Frey made most of Tim's sneakies, when he was working with him.
Tim has retired, but Bob still makes high quality cues.

 

[$TAKE HOR$E]

I picked up a cue a few years ago that had a TS on the buttcap thinking it was a Scruggs. It was basically a converted house cue with a joint similar to the one posted here. The quality was good and it played like the other Scruggs sneaky petes I have had. I sent pictures of it to Tim and he said the cue was not made in his shop. I would venture to say this one is legit but asking Tim or Bob would be the only real verification.

 

[nick serdula]

Here is an oldie

Bob and Tim built all their Custom Cues together as partners full partners. They also worked together at Joss Cues as builders before they started Tim Scruggs Custom Cues and back then they were already known for being master builders.
Here is a oldie or 3.

Nick

 

[Celophanewrap]

WOW! Nice collection, Nick

 

[topcat1953]

Bob Frey worked with Tim Scruggs at the meat house on Georgetown Road when Tim left Dan Janes' shop in 1978. At times, they built some Sneakies, just to stay alive and put some bread on the table. For the life of me, I can't remember what year it was when Tim moved the shop over to Leeds Avenue, but Bob Fry was no longer working at the shop prior to that. 94, 95? Though Mike, Jeff, Bob and another fellow (whose name eludes me, too) worked at the Georgetown Road shop.
Once they were at the Leeds Shop, they were purchasing unfinished full length house cues from Valley. That way they could cut the butt down to their dimensions. Jeff was the primary builder of the Sneakies during this time. He, also, did some other cue repair. Then Jeff got a job with, I think UPS or something like that, and when he left the shop, Tim decided to abandon the Sneaky Pete business due to not really wanting his legacy to be known as Sneaky Pete King. Through the years of building Sneakies, they sported almost any kind of joint. At one point, they did abandon the wood to wood, 3/8-10 pin, due to the fact that they found that joint, without collars, would or could crack and split from breaking the balls and extensive play. They decided the piloted joint for the Sneaky was much more durable, though they would build any type of Sneaky requested and used many different variations of joints.
Once Bob Frey got back into cue making in the early mid 90's, he already knew how to make a premium Sneaky Pete.