Seeking camera recommendations

Snapshot9 said:
that users have shared. What I think needs to be done is
for someone knowledgable to give a summary though.

Low end user package.
Photography is not a hobby.
Just wants an inexpensive setup for pictures of cue(s).

Medium user package.
More than 1 interest in Photography.
Possible Cue Collector, or has interest in taking several
cue pictures of several cues.

Advanced user setup.
Works with taking cue pictures almost daily.
Part of the business.

Most, initial interest would probably be the Low end users,
that want a workable package that takes good pictures
for a small investment price.

I think lots of people would benefit from a summary
expressed like a spreadsheet.

Scott, I like your categorization. Maybe I will end up getting a decent digital camera.
 
Snapshot9 said:
that users have shared. What I think needs to be done is
for someone knowledgable to give a summary though.

Low end user package.
Photography is not a hobby.
Just wants an inexpensive setup for pictures of cue(s).

Medium user package.
More than 1 interest in Photography.
Possible Cue Collector, or has interest in taking several
cue pictures of several cues.

Advanced user setup.
Works with taking cue pictures almost daily.
Part of the business.

Most, initial interest would probably be the Low end users,
that want a workable package that takes good pictures
for a small investment price.

I think lots of people would benefit from a summary
expressed like a spreadsheet.


Here's my advice, buy a book of basic photography principles film speed, aperature openings, shutter speed etc...

Then buy a book on basic lighting theory and simple product photography.

Buying any camera...if you don't understand the principles behind it isn't going to give you great results. It's like most things you have to build the foundation first, you get out of it what you put into it.

Here is a pool anaology.

if Efren were to use a house stick to play, he still beats 99% of the people in the world. It's not so much what he's using but the knowledge and techniques that he has learned that makes him great.

Im not trying to sound like a smart ass or anything, Im just saying learn HOW to photograph things. Don't assume just because you buy a good camera you are going to take good photos.

I know a guy who bought a 20k+ digital camera, his photos are horrible because he has no clue how to use it, he could have acheived the same results with a $159 investment at Wal-Mart.

So my advice is to buy some knowledge first, it will make more of an overall difference in the end results. Thats my Low end user package.
 
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Snapshot9 said:
that users have shared. What I think needs to be done is
for someone knowledgable to give a summary though.

Low end user package.
Photography is not a hobby.
Just wants an inexpensive setup for pictures of cue(s).

Medium user package.
More than 1 interest in Photography.
Possible Cue Collector, or has interest in taking several
cue pictures of several cues.

Advanced user setup.
Works with taking cue pictures almost daily.
Part of the business.

Most, initial interest would probably be the Low end users,
that want a workable package that takes good pictures
for a small investment price.

I think lots of people would benefit from a summary
expressed like a spreadsheet.
now! who do we assign the task to?
i nominate snapshot9 :)
 
Busman said:
I know a guy who bought a 20k+ digital camera, his photos are horrible because he has no clue how to use it, he could have acheived the same results with a $159 investment at Wal-Mart.
is that the hasselblad? what did you think of it?
 
iconcue said:
seems like we have more serious photogs than we have pics posted! :confused:
i post my share and i'm a beginner!
I am not really getting your remark...I don't really push this part of my life since it is a billiards forum but my site is posted in my profile if anyone doubts my knowledge or experience?
 
Busman said:
Here's my advice, buy a book of basic photography principles film speed, aperature openings, shutter speed etc...

......

Im not trying to sound like a smart ass or anything, Im just saying learn HOW to photograph things. Don't assume just because you buy a good camera you are going to take good photos.
Very good points, which is why I suggested starting off with a totally manual camera - most photographers initially do a lot of reading while experimenting with various settings, light and subject speed, taking notes, and checking the printed results, even comparing different brands of film. For me it was fun - for someone else it might be tedious and boring.

So I don't know that that makes sense for "non-hobbyists" - if you aren't into it, I doubt you'll do the books justice or even remember much of it, especially when you can just start fiddling around with a digital camera and get quick results.
 
cuechick said:
I am not really getting your remark...I don't really push this part of my life since it is a billiards forum but my site is posted in my profile if anyone doubts my knowledge or experience?
i really shouldnt have replied to your post. i should have just hit the reply button.
i was just meaning in general from this thread and another that we appearently have some talented photographers as posters. and i just meant it would be nice to see more pics posted :) i enjoy seeing them
not doubting you in any way :) sorry to have given you that impression
 
iconcue said:
i really shouldnt have replied to your post. i should have just hit the reply button.
i was just meaning in general from this thread and another that we appearently have some talented photographers as posters. and i just meant it would be nice to see more pics posted :) i enjoy seeing them
not doubting you in any way :) sorry to have given you that impression

oh I have done that too, thanks for explaining...I guess you could say I am a sensitive artist ...;-)
 
cuechick said:
I am not really getting your remark...I don't really push this part of my life since it is a billiards forum but my site is posted in my profile if anyone doubts my knowledge or experience?
Great googley moogley! I had no idea that was you! I've always loved your work! You are by far one of the most talented artists I've ever seen.

Marissa << Huge admirer of your work!
 
Sweet Marissa said:
Great googley moogley! I had no idea that was you! I've always loved your work! You are by far one of the most talented artists I've ever seen.

Marissa << Huge admirer of your work!
no kidding! i checked her site as well! extremely talented!!! :cool:
 
cuechick said:
Very good post. As a fellow pro with a similar background, and also teach at graduate level art school... it is funny for me to read people go on and on about a filters, glass and tripods.

A camera is a camera is a camera, it is a box with a hole that allows light in.

It is just like a cue, you can spend 100.00 or thousands but it will only shoot as good as the person holding it.

I love digital, and I have shot film for years, I have shot it for 90% of my jobs since December digitally and seriously doubt anyone here could tell me which was which.

What I would suggest for the original poster is to look into the Canon Rebel. A great starter slr that should have all the features you need and can be found for around 500.00 on eBay.

Whatever you get, read the manual from cover to cover...even pros have to do this. Learn to understand "White balance" and you should do fine.

Cheers...!




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I love this picuture very much. Is that Angel in the picture?

Taste is a very important factor, and you have excellent taste.

Love your site and your pictures.

Made my day to see beautiful works such as yours. Thank you.

Richard
 
No Auto Here

I have an old 1945 Leica with the origional manual and tripod. I put $400 into reconditioning. I don't use it. I use a small digital Nikon.
Purdman :cool:
 
runscott said:
Very good points, which is why I suggested starting off with a totally manual camera - most photographers initially do a lot of reading while experimenting with various settings, light and subject speed, taking notes, and checking the printed results, even comparing different brands of film. For me it was fun - for someone else it might be tedious and boring.

So I don't know that that makes sense for "non-hobbyists" - if you aren't into it, I doubt you'll do the books justice or even remember much of it, especially when you can just start fiddling around with a digital camera and get quick results.



Don't think there is such a thing as a 'manual' camera anymore?

Yep, digital is the ticket. Shoot some, and instantly see your work in ...seconds. You can finally afford to play around some, since there isn't film OR developing charges.

I started out with a Nikormatt in the early 70's, then progressed to a F model, then F2. Kept it, and used it for 25+ yrs. Up until about 4 yrs ago. Went out and bought a digitial (Nikon) and never looked back.

Rick S.
 
Rick S. said:
Don't think there is such a thing as a 'manual' camera anymore?

Hey Rick, see the previous post for a manual camera.

Yep, digital is the ticket. Shoot some, and instantly see your work in ...seconds. You can finally afford to play around some, since there isn't film OR developing charges.

I have a Nikon digital myself right now.

I started out with a Nikormatt in the early 70's, then progressed to a F model, then F2. Kept it, and used it for 25+ yrs. Up until about 4 yrs ago. Went out and bought a digitial (Nikon) and never looked back.

You know what's funny? I bought a Nikormat up in Prince Edward Island for my wife in 1972. Bad boy still works like a champ.

Strange world isn't it.
Purdman :cool:
 
Rick S. said:
Don't think there is such a thing as a 'manual' camera anymore?

Yep, digital is the ticket. Shoot some, and instantly see your work in ...seconds. You can finally afford to play around some, since there isn't film OR developing charges.

I started out with a Nikormatt in the early 70's, then progressed to a F model, then F2. Kept it, and used it for 25+ yrs. Up until about 4 yrs ago. Went out and bought a digitial (Nikon) and never looked back.

Rick S.
if you've been shootin pics for over 30 years - who's the youngster in the avatar? :)
which nikon digital you pick up?
 
nipponbilliards said:
I love this picuture very much. Is that Angel in the picture?

Taste is a very important factor, and you have excellent taste.

Love your site and your pictures.

Made my day to see beautiful works such as yours. Thank you.

Richard

Thank you that is very sweet, yes it is Angel....hence the wings ;-)...
 
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