Selecting the Best Cue & Linen Combo

[Cuedog]

In customer situations, when they are looking to replace the standard blackw/wht spec, more times than not, they can't get a true picture of how the linen will look on their cue. Half the time, this is easy. But, there are times when just placing the cue next to the spool just isn't good enough. Some spools have a large enough hole that you can stick the cue through the hole. But not all of them do.

Does anyone have a jig or some sort of method for closely matching the linen to the cue? Any ideas? Thanks

Gene

 

[nbll01]

Gene,

You might try wrapping a dowell any length or size with the actual linen to use as a sample. You could place this over the existing wrap area to get a more accurate idea..............Just my 2 cents........Thanks again for the cork.... Dave

 

[Cue Crazy]

Gene,

You might try wrapping a dowell any length or size with the actual linen to use as a sample. You could place this over the existing wrap area to get a more accurate idea..............Just my 2 cents........Thanks again for the cork.... Dave

That's actually a good idea. I usually wrap about an inch or so (no glue of coarse) over the cue near some of the key elements to see how It looks then try to visualize, but I have enough big spools now that It may be worth making up a dowels from each color. I've held pieces of wood over a cue before to do much the same thing, and visual what the cue would look like with a certain type of wood in It. Same thing with inlays by laying them on top.. Greg

 

[Cuedog]

Thanks for the response fellas. I guess I'm looking for a way to get as close to the customer's cue as possible with as many of the different color linens that are a close marriage. I remember seeing Ted Harris with some sort of rod with linen wraped around it and then he would wrap that aparatus around the customers cue. I'm not sure what he used.

Gene

 

[Cue Crazy]

Thanks for the response fellas. I guess I'm looking for a way to get as close to the customer's cue as possible with as many of the different color linens that are a close marriage. I remember seeing Ted Harris with some sort of rod with linen wraped around it and then he would wrap that aparatus around the customers cue. I'm not sure what he used.

Gene

Don't think I've seen It, but That gives Me another idea, how bout taping a piece of thin cardboard or plastic around a dowel, wrapping Over that cardboard like you would a regular wrap job, only with a more permanent glue, let dry, and cut through the linen and cardboard lenthwise using a straight edge and razor. Then It may wrap around a cue as you say, kind of like sticking a leather wrap blank around a cue to see what it looks like. I don't know how good the glue would hold with wax linen, so possibly the flex could make it come apart, but the same concept could be used only without cutting so it slides over the cue, the Inside dia, would need to Be bigger so it would slide over different size cues though. Greg

 

[MVPCues]

How about this...wrap a thin hollow tub. Slip the the tube down the butt from the joint end so you completely cover the handle area to see how it looks. That would hold up better than cutting something lengthwise to "wrap" the cue with it as in a leather wrap.

Kelly

 

[Cue Crazy]

How about this...wrap a thin hollow tub. Slip the the tube down the butt from the joint end so you completely cover the handle area to see how it looks. That would hold up better than cutting something lengthwise to "wrap" the cue with it as in a leather wrap.

Kelly

Yeah That's basically what I refering to in the last part of My post, cause I do think the flexing and the cut May cause problems, If not sooner possiblty later. I was thinking of a full size piece also so it covers atleast most of the wrap area if not all of It. basically a tube wrapped with linen, so it slides over the cue to give a good example of what the real thing will look like.

Greg

 

[pdcue]

Don't think I've seen It, but That gives Me another idea, how bout taping a piece of thin cardboard or plastic around a dowel, wrapping Over that cardboard like you would a regular wrap job, only with a more permanent glue, let dry, and cut through the linen and cardboard lenthwise using a straight edge and razor. Then It may wrap around a cue as you say, kind of like sticking a leather wrap blank around a cue to see what it looks like. I don't know how good the glue would hold with wax linen, so possibly the flex could make it come apart, but the same concept could be used only without cutting so it slides over the cue, the Inside dia, would need to Be bigger so it would slide over different size cues though. Greg

I also saw Ted Harris, before he became so famous and infamous
with his sample wraps. He was at a tourny witha at least a dozen
colors. It looked to me as if he had done a standard wrap
on something<Delrin?> glue wouldn't stick to, then slit the linen
with a razor.
It gave an excellent piece for evaluating the true look of a wrap.

FWIW - FastForward aprox 2 years - same samples, now quite a bit
the worse for wear.

So, IMHO your Idea is an excell one, maybe use some thin but sturdy
garment material as a backing element to hold the slit tube together

Dale Pierce

 

[Cuedog]

I guess this hasn't been an area that has been addressed. I would say to myself that maybe this is unimportant except for the fact that it comes up constantly when a customer wants/needs a new wrap.

When I ask the question, what color do you want, the responses I get are as follows:

• I'll let you decide.
• I guess you can put the same color on.
• If I could only see them (the selection) on the cue.

To me this translates to it's a hard decision fir them firmly placed on my shoulders. Well, I think I make the decision easier if they could see what they like by having samples that take the place of the current wrap.

Anyone have anymore thoughts or maybe examples of what they do in these cases? I don't mean to beat a dead horse but this is even more important when it comes to selling the idea of changing a wrap for cosmetic reasons.

Gene

 

[Cuedog]

How about this...wrap a thin hollow tub. Slip the the tube down the butt from the joint end so you completely cover the handle area to see how it looks. That would hold up better than cutting something lengthwise to "wrap" the cue with it as in a leather wrap.

Kelly

Just messing around one afternoon, I tried this on some plumbing pipe. Prior to actually making an attempt, I thought it out some and asked myself, how do I hold the tube to wrap it? What type of glue? How do I start and finish the sample wrap so that it stays on the tube without a groove? Do I add a groove? Hummmmm.

Gene

Thanks guys. The replies are great and confirm that I am not crazy. I have thought of this concept, but can't figure the best material to do the job.

 

[MVPCues]

Just messing around one afternoon, I tried this on some plumbing pipe. Prior to actually making an attempt, I thought it out some and asked myself, how do I hold the tube to wrap it? What type of glue? How do I start and finish the sample wrap so that it stays on the tube without a groove? Do I add a groove? Hummmmm.

Gene

Thanks guys. The replies are great and confirm that I am not crazy. I have thought of this concept, but can't figure the best material to do the job.

Good questions, which I did not think about.

Off the top of my head... take a reject 1.5" round and cut a groove and install the wrap normally around the oversized. It doesn' thave to be full length. Bore it out to 1.2" ID. When not using it, keep it hanging on a peg or something so it doesn't get broke.

Kelly

 

[Cue Crazy]

I also saw Ted Harris, before he became so famous and infamous
with his sample wraps. He was at a tourny witha at least a dozen
colors. It looked to me as if he had done a standard wrap
on something<Delrin?> glue wouldn't stick to, then slit the linen
with a razor.
It gave an excellent piece for evaluating the true look of a wrap.

FWIW - FastForward aprox 2 years - same samples, now quite a bit
the worse for wear.

So, IMHO your Idea is an excell one, maybe use some thin but sturdy
garment material as a backing element to hold the slit tube together

Dale Pierce

That's funny cause I actually thought about something that would not risk scratching the cue, and delrin did pop in My mind, but I couldn't figure how to get the linen to stick either. I agree that a suitable material such as some kind of garment material may be more suitable. Greg