Agreed. But I think his first priority should be to stop thinking like a snooker player.
With a bit more planning and better patterns, I am sure he could become a real force in the game if he wants to.
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Agreed. But I think his first priority should be to stop thinking like a snooker player.
With a bit more planning and better patterns, I am sure he could become a real force in the game if he wants to.
I play quite abit on these tables as well here in China. Like an earlier poster mentioned, these tables are dominant in the northern region of China and you'd be lucky to find a regular pool table in those parts of China.
I'm located in the middle of China and these kind of tables are still relatively dominant. In regular pool halls i'd say the ratio of regular pool tables to Chinese pool tables would be 1:5 to 1:10. As you move further south of China tables like these(Chinese pool tables) gets lesser and lesser and regular pool table becomes the norm.
Having played with both regular pool table and these chinese pool table on a regular basis (i just played on both yesterday, 2hrs on each) the play is very different and in my preference requires different cues or shafts.
Chinese pool table requires alot of accuracy much like snooker does. The pockets may look large (due to opening curvature) but trust me, they are not. They are not at all forgiving and i've attached a few pictures for reference. The only forgiving part about these pockets would be the center pockets where due to it's curved sides allow for wider angle of "acceptance" but it's still a tight pocket when you compare it with regular pool tables. Not sure if the last statement makes any sense..
In order to pot a ball you have to be Spot On. There's no "cheating" off the pockets or allow the ball to "booble" in...it's either you got it spot on or you're ball gets spit out.
Speed on these tables are very much slower much like snooker and as for the rails i sort of feel they are the same but because cloth is slower the balls simply moves different when coming off rails.
Because of the accuracy required plus the slow movement of balls, i find myself relying less on english and coming off rails when moving the cue ball. Whenever possible i try to keep the shots simple using the basic stop, draw or follow through. Instead of coming out of rails to place for next shots, i'd prefer to slide as much as possible or come off as few rails as possible. This habit is much like snooker players habit as due to slower CB movement sliding for positioning is much easier and reduces the need to add unnecessary english to CB which affects my accuracy. Again i'm writing based on my lack of skill, i'm sure many better players out there would play otherwise.
As for cues, i like my cue with some flex and soft tips when i play regular pool. But for Chinese pool, i find myself preferring the use the medium hardness tips with slightly stiffer or firmer shafts (Also one good reason why SW cues are so darn popular in China). I bring 2 shafts out when i'm out playing, one with a Medium Hardness Tip (Kamui M or G2 Medium) and another with Soft Tip (Kamui S to SS and G2 Soft), one of each game. It's not a deal breaker to use the "wrong" tips or shafts but it's just a personal preference that i notice allows me to perform better. It could again be psychological or my lack of skills finding excuses.
Here are some pictures of the pockets of a Chinese pool table i took a while back.
I'm located in the middle of China and these kind of tables are still relatively dominant. In regular pool halls i'd say the ratio of regular pool tables to Chinese pool tables would be 1:5 to 1:10. As you move further south of China tables like these(Chinese pool tables) gets lesser and lesser and regular pool table becomes the norm.
Having played with both regular pool table and these chinese pool table on a regular basis (i just played on both yesterday, 2hrs on each) the play is very different and in my preference requires different cues or shafts.
Chinese pool table requires alot of accuracy much like snooker does. The pockets may look large (due to opening curvature) but trust me, they are not. They are not at all forgiving and i've attached a few pictures for reference. The only forgiving part about these pockets would be the center pockets where due to it's curved sides allow for wider angle of "acceptance" but it's still a tight pocket when you compare it with regular pool tables. Not sure if the last statement makes any sense..
In order to pot a ball you have to be Spot On. There's no "cheating" off the pockets or allow the ball to "booble" in...it's either you got it spot on or you're ball gets spit out.
Speed on these tables are very much slower much like snooker and as for the rails i sort of feel they are the same but because cloth is slower the balls simply moves different when coming off rails.
Because of the accuracy required plus the slow movement of balls, i find myself relying less on english and coming off rails when moving the cue ball. Whenever possible i try to keep the shots simple using the basic stop, draw or follow through. Instead of coming out of rails to place for next shots, i'd prefer to slide as much as possible or come off as few rails as possible. This habit is much like snooker players habit as due to slower CB movement sliding for positioning is much easier and reduces the need to add unnecessary english to CB which affects my accuracy. Again i'm writing based on my lack of skill, i'm sure many better players out there would play otherwise.
As for cues, i like my cue with some flex and soft tips when i play regular pool. But for Chinese pool, i find myself preferring the use the medium hardness tips with slightly stiffer or firmer shafts (Also one good reason why SW cues are so darn popular in China). I bring 2 shafts out when i'm out playing, one with a Medium Hardness Tip (Kamui M or G2 Medium) and another with Soft Tip (Kamui S to SS and G2 Soft), one of each game. It's not a deal breaker to use the "wrong" tips or shafts but it's just a personal preference that i notice allows me to perform better. It could again be psychological or my lack of skills finding excuses.
Here are some pictures of the pockets of a Chinese pool table i took a while back.
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I dunno .. I kinda like Michaela Tabb .. especially with 6 out. This gal is nuthin' special.
wow i like these tables. remembers me when i was in a snooker club in liege when i asked the guy to shoot some 9ball (8 foot tables but well... only pooltables there).
the guy comes back with tiny poolballs, takes em out on a 12 foot snookertable and we started playing 9 ball on a 12 foot riley snookertable
AWESOME, lots of fun, totally different safety play.
but such a 9 footer would be great to have around to train for regular pooltables.
thanks for sharing this video :thumbup:
edit: thanks for the pictures from this poolhall, looks nice, would love to play some racks there
the guy comes back with tiny poolballs, takes em out on a 12 foot snookertable and we started playing 9 ball on a 12 foot riley snookertable
AWESOME, lots of fun, totally different safety play.
but such a 9 footer would be great to have around to train for regular pooltables.
thanks for sharing this video :thumbup:
edit: thanks for the pictures from this poolhall, looks nice, would love to play some racks there
What cue was Li Hewen using in that game?
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My China/pool experience
I've been to china 6=7 times.My step son worked in a pool hall with 20 tables or so. All 9' with rounded cushions at the pockets.They all used snooker type cues(small dia.shaft) and because of the diffuculty they would stay away from banks and walking the dog down the rail.The rounded rails would just spit the ball out.They had a special room with a huge table over 10' I know it was because there was a 10'stretch cue hanging underneath it and as a former electrician I know how long a 10'piece of pipe looks like.It certainly changes the game I'm used to.I envy those of you near Real Pool Halls.Just bar boxes around here
I've been to china 6=7 times.My step son worked in a pool hall with 20 tables or so. All 9' with rounded cushions at the pockets.They all used snooker type cues(small dia.shaft) and because of the diffuculty they would stay away from banks and walking the dog down the rail.The rounded rails would just spit the ball out.They had a special room with a huge table over 10' I know it was because there was a 10'stretch cue hanging underneath it and as a former electrician I know how long a 10'piece of pipe looks like.It certainly changes the game I'm used to.I envy those of you near Real Pool Halls.Just bar boxes around here
She says you can keep your Chinese 6 , her husband gives her the Scottish 9 all the time.
All those who rely on the diamond system would be lost on that table. :grin:
When you watch snooker tournaments from China, the broadcast sponsors tend to be luxury cars, scotch, Pizza Hut, McDonald's, and KFC.
China has a new ranking snooker tournament that starts Sunday - the International Championship
Winner: £125,000
Runner-up: £62,500
Semi-finals: £30,000
Quarter-finals: £17,500
Last 16: £12,000
Last 32: £7,000
Last 48: £3,000
Last 64: £1,500
High TV break: £2,000
High non-TV break: £500
Total: £600,000 - That's about $1 million
Suspect that snooker attracts a bigger TV audience.
Top snooker players like Hendy, O'Sullivan and Trump get lots of endorsement and exhibition (like playing 8-ball) deals.
When you watch snooker tournaments from China, the broadcast sponsors tend to be luxury cars, scotch, Pizza Hut, McDonald's, and KFC.
China has a new ranking snooker tournament that starts Sunday - the International Championship
Winner: £125,000
Runner-up: £62,500
Semi-finals: £30,000
Quarter-finals: £17,500
Last 16: £12,000
Last 32: £7,000
Last 48: £3,000
Last 64: £1,500
High TV break: £2,000
High non-TV break: £500
Total: £600,000 - That's about $1 million
Suspect that snooker attracts a bigger TV audience.
Top snooker players like Hendy, O'Sullivan and Trump get lots of endorsement and exhibition (like playing 8-ball) deals.
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