Shaft Diameter Differences

I think your stroke would have to be pretty horrible to make an open bridge noticably less effective.

pj
chgo
ronscuba:
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Since I hit draw and power shots noticeably better with a closed bridge than open my stroke is horrible ? Guess it is because you say so.
That was my way of saying it's probably not your stroke, but something else - like maybe a lack of confidence or some other distraction. But if you really need a closed bridge to control the cue, then your stroke is horrible.

pj
chgo
 
That was my way of saying it's probably not your stroke, but something else - like maybe a lack of confidence or some other distraction. But if you really need a closed bridge to control the cue, then your stroke is horrible.
I partly agree with you but I think "horrible" is needlessly overstated. I have recently been practicing with an open bridge. My draw stroke in particular was bad because my grip hand was twisting or tightening at the wrong time. With a closed bridge defects in the back hand can be masked because the twist or lift is more or less stopped by the looped bridge finger.

Extreme power or even high power (as on draw shots) requires your back hand to be very, very good if you are using an open bridge.

So, if you have a limited amount of time that you can (or are willing to) work on your fundamentals, how much of it should you spend on perfecting your power arm? If you want to have a straight stroke without twist or lift, I think practice with an open bridge is the fastest way to improvement.
 
I partly agree with you but I think "horrible" is needlessly overstated. I have recently been practicing with an open bridge. My draw stroke in particular was bad because my grip hand was twisting or tightening at the wrong time. With a closed bridge defects in the back hand can be masked because the twist or lift is more or less stopped by the looped bridge finger.

Extreme power or even high power (as on draw shots) requires your back hand to be very, very good if you are using an open bridge.

So, if you have a limited amount of time that you can (or are willing to) work on your fundamentals, how much of it should you spend on perfecting your power arm? If you want to have a straight stroke without twist or lift, I think practice with an open bridge is the fastest way to improvement.
I guess "horrible" was a little much (sorry, ronscuba). I've had to work hard on my stroke and grip, but I never had a problem keeping my shaft in the "v" of my open bridge - maybe I was luckier than I thought.

pj
chgo
 
I partly agree with you but I think "horrible" is needlessly overstated. I have recently been practicing with an open bridge. My draw stroke in particular was bad because my grip hand was twisting or tightening at the wrong time. With a closed bridge defects in the back hand can be masked because the twist or lift is more or less stopped by the looped bridge finger.

Extreme power or even high power (as on draw shots) requires your back hand to be very, very good if you are using an open bridge.

So, if you have a limited amount of time that you can (or are willing to) work on your fundamentals, how much of it should you spend on perfecting your power arm? If you want to have a straight stroke without twist or lift, I think practice with an open bridge is the fastest way to improvement.

Great advice- Amen! :-)

Some people often lookin a bit strange, if you recommend open bridge to fix and detect some problems. For me also one of the best ways to fix some *stroke issues*. You ll immediatley see and discover issues :-)
 
In 'The Hustler', when Burt asked Eddie about the open bridge, after the broken thumbs, Eddie estimated that his game was only about 80% with the open bridge, meaning off 20%.


Just my $0.02.

fwiw
although its been a long time since seeing the movie i took that line to mean eddie was 80% because of the rust and was coming back after not playing
not because he was using an open bridge
 
I guess "horrible" was a little much (sorry, ronscuba). I've had to work hard on my stroke and grip, but I never had a problem keeping my shaft in the "v" of my open bridge - maybe I was luckier than I thought.

pj
chgo

imho you were luckier than you think
as mentioned above
i was advised to use an open bridge as a gauge for the straightness of my stroke
when the shaft flies off your hand if it goes to the right or left it shows you where your stroke is off straight
im not an instructor
i havent been playing that long
and im not a high level player
 
bbb:
i was advised to use an open bridge as a gauge for the straightness of my stroke
when the shaft flies off your hand if it goes to the right or left it shows you where your stroke is off straight
Yes, but the open bridge probably isn't contributing to the problem - just revealing it. You'd probably hit the ball bad with a closed bridge too, but the shaft just wouldn't fly up.

With an open bridge and a loose grip the shaft comes out of the v after contact even on good offcenter hits (if they're firm enough). An open bridge only contributes to the problem if it comes out of the v before contact.

pj
chgo
 
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fwiw
although its been a long time since seeing the movie i took that line to mean eddie was 80% because of the rust and was coming back after not playing
not because he was using an open bridge

bbb,

I have not seen the movie in a while either. I took it as & remember it as due to the bridge, but you may be right.

Although, if I simply took 8 weeks off, I doubt my game would fall off 20%. It's sort of like riding a bike. But... if I have been using a closed bridge for all low contact shots for years, which I do , & then had to shoot them with an open bridge, I could see it being a bit of a problem for a while, just from a comfort thing if nothing else.

Regards,
 
Although, if I simply took 8 weeks off, I doubt my game would fall off 20%. It's sort of like riding a bike.

Have you ever taken 8 weeks off? Without so much as touching a cue? I bet your game would fall off by 20% right when you first come back.

Once I took 3 months off. My first day back, I was missing straight-in shots by half a diamond. Everything felt wrong.

The game comes back quickly, but I guarantee you it will take more than one session.
 
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