Shaft Hole Depth Creates Void Question.

[technoid101]

The joint on my sneaky is wood to wood faced. The pin is 1-1/4 inch long and the shaft hole is tapped to 2 inches deep. This creates a 3/4-inch void in the shaft. Question 1, is there any benefit to filling the void? Question 2, what would you fill it with?
Thanks for your input.

 

[aphelps1]

Most taps require around 1/2 inch extra bore length in order to make full threads. The void you have is typical in shafts with a wood to wood joint.

 

[Sheldon]

No, there's no benefit. Leave it as is.
LD wood shafts are commonly hollow for 6-8" near the tip, that tiny void at the joint is not going to affect anything.

 

[Renegade_56]

Most taps require around 1/2 inch extra bore length in order to make full threads. The void you have is typical in shafts with a wood to wood joint.

Not necessarily, bottom taps will get perfect thread to within a thread or 2 of the bottom of a blind hole, and a thread mill can get all the way to the bottom. But I agree, the 1/2 inch or so don't really hurt anything.

 

[JoeyInCali]

You're going to miss a lot more money balls because of it .
I can plug it up and re-thread. Hole will be only 1.4" deep unless it's a radial screw.
I charge only $200 .
Or, you can just ignore it .
Happy New Year.

 

[aphelps1]

Not necessarily, bottom taps will get perfect thread to within a thread or 2 of the bottom of a blind hole, and a thread mill can get all the way to the bottom. But I agree, the 1/2 inch or so don't really hurt anything.

That's why I said most taps. I don't know of a bottoming tap for 3/8X10 or radial, but I suppose one could be custom ground. I prefer the piloted version of those myself. In any case, Happy New Year!

 

[Michael Webb]

That's why I said most taps. I don't know of a bottoming tap for 3/8X10 or radial, but I suppose one could be custom ground. I prefer the piloted version of those myself. In any case, Happy New Year!

 

[garczar]

The joint on my sneaky is wood to wood faced. The pin is 1-1/4 inch long and the shaft hole is tapped to 2 inches deep. This creates a 3/4-inch void in the shaft. Question 1, is there any benefit to filling the void? Question 2, what would you fill it with?
Thanks for your input.

You're probably used to your 'pin' not hitting the bottom of the hole so don't worry about it.

 

[Michael Webb]

You're probably used to your 'pin' not hitting the bottom of the hole so don't worry about it.

If people are lucky, the pin should never hit the bottom of the hole in a shaft.
Chisel effect mean anything? Lol
Plus, thier should be allowance if the shaft ever needs to be re-faced.

 

[JoeyInCali]

And we still have no idea what joint screw he has.
Happy new year

 

[Michael Webb]

And we still have no idea what joint screw he has.
Happy new year

Don't need to know, same rule applies.
Happy New Year Sir

 

[technoid101]

Thank you for all the input, the pin is a 3/8-10 I started looking at the tightness of the pin to shaft threads as I noticed some looseness when putting the cue together. Once the faces meet its solid but that lead me to take the measurements and the question. Happy Newyear all.

 

[BarenbruggeCues]

Depth of pin hole in shaft and looseness of pin in thread hole are 2 totally different issues.

 

[slim123]

Thank you for all the input, the pin is a 3/8-10 I started looking at the tightness of the pin to shaft threads as I noticed some looseness when putting the cue together. Once the faces meet its solid but that lead me to take the measurements and the question. Happy Newyear all.

This is good stuff, this guy thought he had a gap in front of his pin, but turns out it's not related to his issue,.

How many of you have drilled the hole short and got a crooked pin install, because the pin bottomed out
That space in front of the pin, is functional, and will not have any effect on your money ball

 

[Michael Webb]

This is good stuff, this guy thought he had a gap in front of his pin, but turns out it's not related to his issue,. While we ARE ON THIS TOPIC, OF THE HOLE, BEING DRILLED BEYOND THE THREADS Could be a tapered tap.. however, Let's discuss the reverse senario

How many of you have drilled the hole short and got a crooked pin install, because the pin bottomed out
That space in front of the pin, is functional, and will not have any effect on your money ball

Check the screws before you install.
Dry fit before you epoxy.
Standard steps!

 

[thoffen]

You're probably used to your 'pin' not hitting the bottom of the hole so don't worry about it.

Have you ever noticed that it's always the hole that's too long and never the pin that's too short?

 

[Michael Webb]

Have you ever noticed that it's always the hole that's too long and never the pin that's too short?

Lmao
I wouldn't say that.
Couldn't resist.

 

[Mcues]

Check the screws before you install.
Dry fit before you epoxy.
Standard steps!

Amen

 

[WilleeCue]

Thank you for all the input, the pin is a 3/8-10 I started looking at the tightness of the pin to shaft threads as I noticed some looseness when putting the cue together. Once the faces meet its solid but that lead me to take the measurements and the question. Happy Newyear all.

3/8-10 pins really need a bit of looseness so that he faces of the joint can properly align. I dont mean sloppy loose. Just loose enough to allow a very small wiggle when the faces come together.