Shaft inserts for large pins?

BPG24

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I was wondering if it is possible to use a shaft insert of some kind with a brass 3/8-11 pin. Similar to a piloted 5/16-14 pin.
 
Yes, phenolic or oily woods are my faves.
I've used bocote and madagascar rosewood.
 
Ok, I have having a new toy made and was wondering about the advantages/disadvantages of using a shaft insert and a 3/8-11 pin.
 
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shouldn't be any disadvantages oher than a change in hit,which could be advantageous or disadvantageous,but the advantage would be longer thread life.

i hit some balls with a cue that had an Oliewood insert and thoguht it made for a louder hit.
 
BPG24 said:
I was wondering if it is possible to use a shaft insert of some kind with a brass 3/8-11 pin. Similar to a piloted 5/16-14 pin.
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Hi.
I just put a phenolic insert in 3/8x10 and made it piloted and the hit is solid .Another AZer just got a cue from me with a insert for a 3/8x10 and he said it hit like a 1 piece cue.What that means to you i leave for you .I like it and will keep doing them unless some1 doesnt want it on a ordered cue from me.Not that hard to do but its is a little pain in the butt but I think it worth it. Here's a pic . Jeff
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Thanks for the picsand the info
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Does Zylr use a similar shaft insert?
 
BPG24 said:
Thanks for the picsand the info
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Does Zylr use a similar shaft insert?
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No.
He uses a proprietary insert.
I dunno what it is.
Some NASA material.
 
JoeyInCali said:
No.
He uses a proprietary insert.
I dunno what it is.
Some NASA material.
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Proprietary huh. That would make it hard to get :D

So I guess some cue makers have toyed with different types of plastics etc?
 
BPG24 said:
Proprietary huh. That would make it hard to get :D

So I guess some cue makers have toyed with different types of plastics etc?
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Yes. He tried Delrin too. My shaft had it after it was fitted for another cue. It did alright but it was scratched for his new and much better one.
I tried Delrin too but scratched b/c it crossthreaded too easily.

I think half-inch diam. linen phenolic would be fine. Not canvas b/c it's too noisy.
i'm back to the shop. late
 
JoeyInCali said:
Yes. He tried Delrin too. My shaft had it after it was fitted for another cue. It did alright but it was scratched for his new and much better one.
I tried Delrin too but scratched b/c it crossthreaded too easily.

I think half-inch diam. linen phenolic would be fine. Not canvas b/c it's too noisy.
i'm back to the shop. late
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plus delrin doesnt glue well so over time i would be scared about that holding up

phenilic or ebony would be my choice
 
Saw my first 3/8 -10 with a brass insert this past weekend. Have no idea what kind of cue it was. Shaft weighed a ton.
 
RocketQ said:
Saw my first 3/8 -10 with a brass insert this past weekend. Have no idea what kind of cue it was. Shaft weighed a ton.
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I've seen two of that kind.
One was a private label made by Pechauer.
One was a custom maker from Louissiana.
 
I'm not a cue maker in any sense of the word so I'll trust my curiosity with you experts. :D

Does using an insert with these larger pins warrant concern for structural integrity? Meaning, you have to use a large insert, so how does that affect the "sidewall" of the shaft? I assume it makes it quite a bit thinner than normal.

Thanks,
Craig
 
Irish634 said:
I'm not a cue maker in any sense of the word so I'll trust my curiosity with you experts. :D

Does using an insert with these larger pins warrant concern for structural integrity? Meaning, you have to use a large insert, so how does that affect the "sidewall" of the shaft? I assume it makes it quite a bit thinner than normal.

Thanks,
Craig
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If the epoxy holds like it should it should be just as strong if not stronger then wood alone.
 
I definitely like the material Zylr uses....

I have hit with cues that had 3/8x10 or 3/8x11 pins with bocote, phenoli, and probably some other woods. I like what it does for the hit with some of these.
 
I am interested in how the hit is effected.

My two favorite "hits" are from 3/8-11 pins and/or 5/16-14 piloted so my thoughts were what would happen if you combined the two
 
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