shaft wood

patrickcues

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I am looking for some excellent shaft wood. I have several lines on seconds and 1 source on some good shaft wood. However knowone seems to have the Excellent shaft wood anymore. If there is another builder out there that doesn't mind sharing would you please pm me with a name and phone number. I will return the favor if possible.

Thank you:
Doug
 
Check with Eric Crisp of SugarTree cues. He & Wes Hunter recently had some very fine shaft wood for sale. I believe his forum name is "qbilder".
 
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Price is everything when it comes to shaft wood. $8 for #1 medium grade mix. $15 for all clean dowels. I rarely pick em all clean but might on small orders of 20 pieces.
 
cueman said:
Price is everything when it comes to shaft wood. $8 for #1 medium grade mix. $15 for all clean dowels. I rarely pick em all clean but might on small orders of 20 pieces.


I have a question about seperating and grading shaft dowels? A,AA,AAA,AAAA+ and so on and so on! How do you determine the grade catagory? It can't be by looking at the appearence because you don't know what the finnish product looks like so it must be the appearence of the grain! Straight and tight vs non so straight and low number of GPI.

Lets face it the grain in shaft should be near straight as possible, so wouldn't it make more sence that wood should be divided by GPI alone. A=5GPI AA=10GPI AAA=15Gpi AAAA=20GPI I have all kinds of shaft wood that appears to have incosistancies within the same catagory. Someone should come up with something that is universal to everyone!
 
Grading lumber has been one of the most questionable projects around. One person"s AA+ equals another person's number #1. Buying shaft wood in turning squares can be a crapshoot. At least Chris Hightower advertises that he is selling a mix. You have to go by the sellers integrity when you purchase. He sells what he advertises honestly. YOU are the ultimate grader only after the wood arrives. Year to year differences, lot to lot differences, drying conditions, and location of cut differences enter here also. Seasoning before and after the purchase remains one of the highest priorities of the builder. I have seen shafts that had less than perfect grain straightness, whiteness, even with sugar imperfections that played superbly and remained straight as an arrow. I have also seen shafts over 25 GRPI, with straight grain, white as the driven snow, with quality ferrules and tips that played crappy and were warped within a year of purchase.
Integrity of the producer of the product remains the most important criterion when purchasing, in my mind. Need any AAAAA+ shafts now?????
Tom Gedris, Triple Cross Cues:cool:
 
cueman said:
Price is everything when it comes to shaft wood. $8 for #1 medium grade mix. $15 for all clean dowels. I rarely pick em all clean but might on small orders of 20 pieces.

Chris......are your $15 graded just on being clean or other criteria also?
 
BarenbruggeCues said:
Chris......are your $15 graded just on being clean or other criteria also?
Just on being clean and I don't grade out that many, as I turn the rest so as not to lesson my #1 shaft dowel mix.
If you want more specific grading you have to buy partially turned shafts. And forget asking for 30 growth rings, perfectly straight grain with no sugar lines. The only way you will get that is to get the two or three out of a hundred that comes in the regular #1 mix. Cause if I start turning them and see one like that, it goes into my personal cue cabinet.

To answer Bubs Bug. Here is basically how I grade when looking at turned shafts:
#1 or AAA = No sugar lines (clean) and decent grain appearance.
#1.5 or A+ = Small amount of sugar lines, but still decent grain appearance.
#1.5 or A+ Tight Grain = Small amount of sugar lines, but at least 15 grain lines per inch and usually more. Average around 20 growth lines per inch.
#2 or B grade = A lot of sugar or some mineral. Ugly.
#3 = Too ugly to use on a cue without staining black.

The shaft Dowel estimated yield from a #1 or #2 mix is listed on my website.
 
cueman said:
If you want more specific grading you have to buy partially turned shafts. And forget asking for 30 growth rings, perfectly straight grain with no sugar lines. The only way you will get that is to get the two or three out of a hundred that comes in the regular #1 mix. Cause if I start turning them and see one like that, it goes into my personal cue cabinet.

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Darn........That's what I was going to have you send me.....all those ones in your "personal" cue cabinet!
 
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