Shane's 3 foul not legit?
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Never seen the rule enforced to that point. He was clearly notified. No need to get that nitty.
Listen closely, at 1:25:00 the ref tells him “you have two foul.”
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You sure? I thought the ref interupted him to ask where they were going for lunch.
Boils down to letter of the law vs spirit of law. The only way the letter should not prevail is if Shane consents. Uh, for the good of the game.
What the OP is referring to is the WPA rule that says the player must be notified 'when he returns' to the table. Look, SVB was notified. End of story.
The reason the rule is there so you don't spend waiting for the guy to shoot 7 balls, then a safe, you go back to the table and everyone forgets the other foul count. I have seen that rule used, and of course with arguments and almost fights along with it. My point for enforcing the actual rule, it's not so hard to use it properly, I mean once you reach past 3rd grade people should know what "before" and "after" means. And if someone played a single game of a game where the 3 foul rule is used they should know the correct rule.
They sure enforce the call pocket rule also when the ball is 1 inch in front of a pocket or when a ball clearly goes inside a pocket then pops back out, so making sure the opponent is actually told they are on 3 at the same time is no worse or better than any other rule following.
The ref made it clear to SVB where he stood. I've played a lot of 3-foul 9ball and this has never been an issue. How many people do you think know the exact WPA wording of the 3-foul rule? I'd bet high its not very many.
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Here is the WPA regulation about the three-foul warning:
When a game has a three-foul rule, the referee should note to the players any second foul at the time that it occurs and also when the player who is on two fouls returns to the table. The first warning is not required by the rules but is meant to prevent later misunderstandings. If there is a scoreboard on which the foul count is visible to the players, it satisfies the warning requirement.
Is it a foul if there is no cushion contact?
What I always did in gambling or the rare tourney I’d play is, when I got my man on 2 I hold up a peace sign ✌ and say “You are on 2”, I continue to hold up the 
Sign until he acknowledges me.
That has never failed me. It came at a price once, small $ game. I said “on 2” and assumed I was ok. I wasn’t, small argument and I learned my lesson.
Why something so simple as being on 2 gets complex I don’t understand. Everyone makes mistakes, but when I got someone on 2-I make sure they know. I’m cool about it, simple management.
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Fatboy<——-covering his ass for years now.
Sign until he acknowledges me.That has never failed me. It came at a price once, small $ game. I said “on 2” and assumed I was ok. I wasn’t, small argument and I learned my lesson.
Why something so simple as being on 2 gets complex I don’t understand. Everyone makes mistakes, but when I got someone on 2-I make sure they know. I’m cool about it, simple management.
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Fatboy<——-covering his ass for years now.
If you've just been told 'you're on 2' do you really need to be reminded before you shoot? Seriously, are you going to forget it before you shoot again? That's my point. Splitting hairs is being nice.
I tell them they are "on two" when I grab the cueball. Then after I play safe I tell them " you are shooting three".
This is best because if you get them on 2 and say nothing, waiting until you play the 3rd safe, sometimes they question how they got on 2.... especially in long drawn out gambling...we all just get into it and can forget the first foul.
Exactly...and I know this from experience. Plus telling a guy he's on 2 can definitely rattle some.
if you are a pro, learn the rules exactly. then follow them and make your opponent follow them.
because if you dont he may very well call them on you to make you lose the match.
nothing is nitty in a tournament. you use the rules to your advantage, as well as they can be a disadvantage.
if you are playing in your friday night league or small friendly tournament thats a diffent thing.
because if you dont he may very well call them on you to make you lose the match.
nothing is nitty in a tournament. you use the rules to your advantage, as well as they can be a disadvantage.
if you are playing in your friday night league or small friendly tournament thats a diffent thing.
