I will take that bet, I have been watching them 1.25:17 and counting....................neither has budged yet, I think they may be asleep.
Shane's 3 foul not legit?
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Isn't there already a thread arguing about this one?
Apparently you live for this shit. You probably call-in the rules gaffs on televised golf. Always wondered who did this and now i think i know. BTW, for YEARS the rule book said nothing(UPA still doesn't) about this nitty detail. I really don't give an airborne copulation what the WPA says. I think their 10b rules suck and we(neither does DCC btw) never go by them. If their rules makes you sleep better then knock yourself out.So you are basing my knowledge of the rules to me not being a fun guy? Okayyyy It has noting to do with petty, IT IS THE RULE AS WRITTEN. I meant it's not even a discussion what the rule is, it's right there in the rule book. If you chose to ignore it, and your opponent is OK with it, fine. If one does not ignore it that is also fine. But for sure I would not be mad at someone that pointed out the actual rule or think they were acting improperly. Are you OK if someone gained 9.95 yards for a first down because, hey, it's close enough and who needs to nitpick that small a distance. Or if a ball hits 1" bellow the wall and is not a homerun, I mean we know it was sooo close, who needs the rules? Close hits on a tough 4 rail kick? I know the rules say you need to actually hit the ball, but it was such a hard shot we should let it slide since it was within a mm of the hit anyway. Who decides what rules are OK to ignore or not know? If someone does not know the rules, in a sport, in competition, that is the fault of them and only them if they break it.
Some rules are just bad, like the 3 point rule, it causes more issues than it solves, but when to say someone is on 2 fouls, if you don't know what the difference between "before" or "after" is, it's a elementary grade learning issue not anything bad with the rule. It's no harder to follow the rule than it is not to, it's just more players have the instinct to just say "you're on 2" soon as the second foul is committed, but they forget the rule which states they must also warn the player as that player is coming to the table for the third shot.
There was a situation in snooker where someone made a shot to win a close game, before the cueball stopped rolling they placed the cue on the table, and the cueball hit it, although it was not going to scratch. The ref called the foul and the game to the other player due to the points gained on a foul, was the ref not a fun guy to be with because he followed and knew the rules? The rules state if the balls are in motion, the shot and the game are not over. Let's ignore that one also maybe if it suits someone at sometimes but not other times? I mean what if the ball was close to scratching or if you simply stopped it before it rolled into the pocket? If we ignore one ball rolling why not ignore another ball rolling?
Here is another great example of a rule that seems "petty" and "nitpicking" but it was a rule and was called, who is at fault there? Was the umpire an ass-hole because he knew the rule and saw it broken and was doing his job? Or was the catcher at fault for not knowing the rule?
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Nope, I just learn the rules I play by, is that a problem? It makes me a bad person to know things? You seem very upset over this rule for some reason, if you don't want to follow the rule and everyone you play with don't follow or know the rule, that's all fine. Many people I know have no idea about many of the the rules of pool, even decent players. I've had to explain lag rules to a lot of people for example. But in an event that uses the standard world rules, and someone does not follow the rules, neither you or anyone else can whine and bitch about nitpicking to get out of it. I don't care if you know the rule or not, I won't call you names over it or think you are a bad person. You just give up an advantage to someone that does know the rules.
Oh, I also don't watch golf.
At the end of it all, in the OP thread, if Shane was not told he was on 2 fouls when he approached the table for his shot, if he fouled again that would have only counted for his second one, if anyone there followed the rule. And it would be the correct call, just like when someone tossed a cue on the table to interfere with a moving ball or used a mask to casually grab a baseball, all of which are "nitty" I guess but not so nitty than an official of the game did not call it.
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Booked,I will take that bet, I have been watching them 1.25:17 and counting....................neither has budged yet, I think they may be asleep.
This might be a slow one…..
A argument on AZB? You sure about that? Seems unlikely…..
Here’s how I take it. Telling SVB he is on 2 immediately in theory is good enough. He will likely remember, pick a strategy and honor the rule when he comes back to the table (win or lose). It’ll play out like this just about every time. And he will do that from a basic integrity perspective.
But if for some reason a bunch of time has past, he forgot, picked a strategy that didn’t consider it, and fouled again while truly being unaware he was on two. Well. He could potentially argue it and have a leg to stand on in his protest. I see this very rare and very unlikely to happen.
A player could intentionally get nitty with the rules butI don’t think you’ll see it happening often at the professional level.
But if for some reason a bunch of time has past, he forgot, picked a strategy that didn’t consider it, and fouled again while truly being unaware he was on two. Well. He could potentially argue it and have a leg to stand on in his protest. I see this very rare and very unlikely to happen.
A player could intentionally get nitty with the rules butI don’t think you’ll see it happening often at the professional level.
I don't feel that it was Shane's job to make the call it was the ref's (sorry) the "referee's" job.
The ref should've simply handed the cue ball to the incoming player, after all it is his job.
This rule is not a misprint or an oversight. There was a very good reason for the timing of the 2nd foul notification.
FYI, if during a debate your opponent uses language like "nit, you're no fun to be around & airborne copulation????" He's on two.
I get you. There’s the letter or the law and the spirit of the law. Im not saying whose job it is. I’m just describing what most pros will do. They will live within the spirit of the rule as a means of good sportsmanship. Just look at Yapp.
i play in a few leagues and the Electric chair for some league players actually seems like a good idea to me.
Apparently only if you notify him immediately prior to his next post.
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Wasn’t there a another thread a while back with Shane playing 14.1 where his opponent fouled, then Shane ran 50, then Shane fouled, his opponent intentionally fouled, Shane fouled again, his opponent intentionally fouled again to force Shane to three foul and everybody in the room forgot the opponent already had one foul from three racks back?
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Alex fouls at 33:45, Shane runs balls for the next 38 minutes, then the foul exchange starts at 1:12:08.
Oh and it was a 70 ball run not 50, so 5 full racks between Alex’s 1st and second foul.
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Alex fouls at 33:45, Shane runs balls for the next 38 minutes, then the foul exchange starts at 1:12:08.
Oh and it was a 70 ball run not 50, so 5 full racks between Alex’s 1st and second foul.
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Was there a ref keeping track of things? After a 50 ball run I may forget if I ate lunch or not before it started LOL
I'm related to Harry Truman whose nickname was "give 'em Hell Harry". He was asked about his nickname and he said "I don't given 'em Hell. I just tell the truth and they think it's Hell".
I don't argue. I tell the truth and then others argue.
I like that quote! I was just wondering how we went from this incident to the other incident.