Sharing my old Brunswick table

garczar said:
Got a follow-up msg from Derrick at BilliardRestor. He said the current market for antique tables like this is extremely flat. Said the op's table 'might' be worth up to $7,500. Also said that fully restored ones are topping out around in the 35-50,00 range.
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A pool table has an inherent problem as a collectable. Size, weight and utility. I don't know any pool table collectors. It's value is would be more novelty or history. A pool table to the average person is to play on.

Given that, they would certainly appreciate an old table, but would not want to own one, not even restored. They would invest in a new modern table they could use for years. I can't see getting a table restoring it and expecting any appreciation in years to come.

It value is in its use. Again making a new table, or new meaning more contemporary a better investment. It will be enjoyed for many years.
Just my opinion.
 
In all the years we've been on AZB, I don't recall any member ever buying an antique like this, and writing about it. The people here are the biggest pool phanatics in the world. You'd figure one of us would have the combo of "love pool, love antiques, has money to burn". But I don't think its happened.

I think the only market for antique tables is in a library room of a mansion by a person who doesn't play pool at all.
 
iusedtoberich said:
In all the years we've been on AZB, I don't recall any member ever buying an antique like this, and writing about it. The people here are the biggest pool phanatics in the world. You'd figure one of us would have the combo of "love pool, love antiques, has money to burn". But I don't think its happened.

I think the only market for antique tables is in a library room of a mansion by a person who doesn't play pool at all.
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kinda agree here. these tables are more art/furniture than something to use. that being said i'd love to have a Kling with rails re-done to 4.5 corners. Most beautiful table ever imo.
 
iusedtoberich said:
In all the years we've been on AZB, I don't recall any member ever buying an antique like this, and writing about it. The people here are the biggest pool phanatics in the world. You'd figure one of us would have the combo of "love pool, love antiques, has money to burn". But I don't think its happened.

I think the only market for antique tables is in a library room of a mansion by a person who doesn't play pool at all.
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Fwiw, I fit two of those, just missing the money to burn :D
 
I don't think there is any way this table was originally a pool table and later converted to a snooker table. Why do we go with complicated theories instead of simply it was always a snooker table?


IDK when snooker slate cuts became standardized, but if you go from at least 1950 to today, this slate is a snooker slate. The slate edge radius on the white line is like that on snooker, not pool. The curvature of the yellow line is like that on snooker. Pool would be offset radially outward more like the blue line. None of that could have been changed if it was converted from pool to snooker, because it would have required adding material to the slate. Plus, who in their right mind would have done that? Go with the obvious and simplest answer that this is currently and always was a snooker table.
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iusedtoberich said:
I don't think there is any way this table was originally a pool table and later converted to a snooker table. Why do we go with complicated theories instead of simply it was always a snooker table?


IDK when snooker slate cuts became standardized, but if you go from at least 1950 to today, this slate is a snooker slate. The slate edge radius on the white line is like that on snooker, not pool. The curvature of the yellow line is like that on snooker. Pool would be offset radially outward more like the blue line. None of that could have been changed if it was converted from pool to snooker, because it would have required adding material to the slate. Plus, who in their right mind would have done that? Go with the obvious and simplest answer that this is currently and always was a snooker table.
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You mean take your guess as fact? Could be correct, might not. The ads for these show pool, carom or combination(pool table with extra carom rails) models. No mention of snooker version anywhere. Do you think your beloved B'wick would be so stupid as to make that big of a misprint error? AD:https://brunswick.pastperfectonline.com/library/E23C67A9-21FC-46E0-972D-831590686333 The word 'snooker' is nowhere to be seen in these old B'wick catalogs. Purely a blind omission?
 
garczar said:
You mean take your guess as fact? Could be correct, might not. The ads for these show pool, carom or combination(pool table with extra carom rails) models. No mention of snooker version anywhere. Do you think your beloved B'wick would be so stupid as to make that big of a misprint error? AD:https://brunswick.pastperfectonline.com/library/E23C67A9-21FC-46E0-972D-831590686333 The word 'snooker' is nowhere to be seen in these old B'wick catalogs. Purely a blind omission?
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It was sold for the Canadian market. Different ads, lost to time. Have you ever in your life seen an ad for a 12' GC Snooker table? I know I haven't. Yet there are many out there IN Canada.
 
Asked Derrick this and he said a co. called Samuel May(B'wick bought them out in 1910 and used their factory) did a lot of Brunswick conversions in Canada. Also said a 8ft snooker Monarch from the factory is pretty unlikely. He's seen 10ft versions but not 8. Off chance that the factory made it but a May conversion is more likely. Bottom line is there's is no way to be certain exactly who made(or converted) this table. As for those 12ft GC's i asked RKC and he said they were all GC1's made in Toronto. That factory closed by 1965 so they were all made in basically a 5yr window.
 
Did a lil dig on Samuel May and they made some beautiful snooker tables themselves. Before B'wick bought them the two co's actually had a collusion deal where they basically controlled prices on tables in Canada. Makes their conversion story more plausible as they would have had the snooker slates in stock to do the work. One of their tables: https://www.ebay.com/itm/3953786894...d=link&campid=5335988529&toolid=20001&mkevt=1
 
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