Across from Loyola on Sheridan rd. in Rogers Park?
Shark Out of Water
- Thread starter mr3cushion
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Benton Harbor MI.
A few players from Chicago came over and played him. He owned the place
okay here is the scoop on edwards. he was best player around connecticut. for sure. he shot like lassiter he never missed a ball. this is before he was a complete drug addict and still a hippy kid kind of.. although he may have been back then i dont know. he would come around the pool room in bridgeport he lived about a half hour away. he was a funny decent guy. never saw him after that.
he was called waterbury not waterdog then. he got that when he left full time for the road from someone.
like many pool players they didnt really have a life and got too far into drugs or crime. anyone can quit. it is a personal choice,
he was called waterbury not waterdog then. he got that when he left full time for the road from someone.
like many pool players they didnt really have a life and got too far into drugs or crime. anyone can quit. it is a personal choice,
I was there playing 3C, Dennis Douberteen played out of that room. Not sure if I played him.
In the 60's He was a Chicago Tour Bus driver and would come to Bensingers.
Gerhard carried a 1.3 average I believe. That was early 90's
I highly doubt it!
I would have been looking for a player like that, meaning the entire room would be looking to bet on him.
let's shed some light on this:
1. Billiards was very much a game enjoyed by lower classes and the very, very rich class as well. EVERY mansion built from the turn of the 19th into 20th century and all the high end mansions well into the 1920s had a dedicated billiards parlor room- the men all gathered in the billiard rooms after dinners in these mansions- their country clubs also all had dedicated billiard rooms for after golf and evening recreation. The very highest sports clubs in NYC like the NY Sports Athletic club, The Union League Club, all of the Ivy League Clubs- each had huge billiard rooms- I have personally seen these billiard rooms in NYC for what remained and they were definitely well attended in the day.
If you do any research on most of the names scripted by Herman Rambow on the forearm of his cues- most of those cue owners were members of boards of the very successful regional banks and industrial companies in major Mid Western and North American cities - as well as prominent lawyers and doctors. The game was still very much enjoyed by the elite of American Capitalism.
2. Returning WWII veterans almost completely abandoned the game as marriage, finding work, building homes, raising families all took priority over spending time in a pool room. - even world pool tournaments were mostly abandoned from 46 to the early 1960s. You are correct- most of the guys left in the pool rooms after WWII were the low lifes who had no interest in building a better life for themselves during the post war middle class boom era.
3. Pool's issue was that they had NO governing body, like golf, that could drive the game toward acceptance by the monied sponsors that eventually brought golf to the masses in a way that could be easily melded into the fabric of what had become post war middle class America.
4. Brunswick had one interest, and one interest only throughout it's American existence- PROFIT- that meant NOT investing heavily into youth billiard development since that investment could not reap any profits in the near term for owners/shareholders.
Nope. True story.
He just never went anywhere, had a biz to run.
There were only a few that played 3c, most played full rack banks
I wanna say his high run was 17 or 18
Top 3C players can't hide/don't hide from testing their skills.
Especially in that time frame and location of that room, only being 100 miles away from the Meca of 3C in the Midwest, Chris's Billiards.
The guy I mentioned Dennis D. came/played in many events at Chris's and most definitely would have mentioned a player of that caliber, which there was Only a few of us in the country at that time.
17's and 18's don't fall out of the trees!
What you choose to believe is up to you. I personally saw him put up many 5, 6, 7 and 8s.
Again, the guy had a business to run. I believe he came over a few times over the years
I know Mark Jarvis came over and played him 3c and 9 ball
What about the Top player, 'Portchester Mickey' he suffered the same aliment as Waterdog!
I believe Mickey may have been some form of Mentor to Donny.
And the results of those matches?
Top flat-out speed for Jarvis playing 3C is around 0.700!
BTW, I would give Jarvis 10-12 on 25.
One other thing to mention, a player playing a weaker player in 3C that is 'Normally' a 0.800-0.900 player could average 1.3 'Some games' against 0.400-0.600 players!
Golf has a squeaky clean image. Golf cleaned itself up.
Pool has a squeaky dirty image. Pool can't.
Seems you have everything figured out. Good for you
i never heard of mickey or even his name mentioned. unless in a room full of railbirds around where i was, not many mentioned about players that werent local. always thought of as knocking. which i guess it was even though it was a person no one had anything to do with.
even in my local rooms so many were lost to hard drugs. they were too easy to get back then and fairly cheap. but it was still rare for someone to be a drug addict.
it wasnt till cocaine took over and at a 100 a gram was too expensive and became a social drug for the masses.
That's what 'Pro' players do in 3C!
We 'See all the angles'!
Back on topic!
Anyone else have any stories about Don 'Waterdog' Edwards?
Sailor Barge was Mickey's (Mickey Carpinello) Mentor, Mickey in the 60's may have been the 'Best Unknown' player around the country!
When He got off the drugs Very tough to beat!
If you have Freddy the Beard's book, "The Encyclopedia of Pool Hustlers" He's in it.
This one is second hand, but from a witness. Waterdog was in Denver, Aurora actually. At a room near the Air Force Base. An Air Force guy set up a straight pool game. 50 points for $1 per point. He got out to a small lead, like 3-0. Went to the desk bragging how he trapped that junkie over there. He didn’t know who Waterdog was but figured it out after the 50 and out.
Dunno how much heroin went for on Colfax, but it was a short trip from the pool hall.
I was there at Capital Billiards and Colfax Billiards in 70,73.This one is second hand, but from a witness. Waterdog was in Denver, Aurora actually. At a room near the Air Force Base. An Air Force guy set up a straight pool game. 50 points for $1 per point. He got out to a small lead, like 3-0. Went to the desk bragging how he trapped that junkie over there. He didn’t know who Waterdog was but figured it out after the 50 and out.
Dunno how much heroin went for on Colfax, but it was a short trip from the pool hall.
