When my opponent is shooting, I stand on top of the table and start doing the running man dance. It works pretty good.
SHARK Tactics
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Gregg said:
Very enjoyable thread! Two classic sharks not mentioned:
- a well-timed lighting of a match or lighter while opponent is down and just as they finish the third practice stroke...
- when opponent is over the 8, the 9, or the 14th ball, get up, go to the foot of the table so as to be there to grab the rack, conceding the game will soon be over. The hovering effect distracts, but gee, you're just being polite.
Hi, new member. I don't post, but I just played the biggest shark last night. JR was his name. APA, we're both seven's. It started with the lag when he cussed me out for not hitting on 3? After that he proceeded to talk on his cell phone for the entire match. After I went up 2-0 he started telling me that I would choke for money (as I was hitting my shot 4 or 5 times) and when I questioned a ruling (I just got clarification) he spent the rest of the match telling whoever was on the other end of the phone what a crybaby I was. I feel I'm a good player (irish- high snooker break-144) but I've never had this happen. Sorry for the long post. Love the site.
I do some things accidently, don't ever try to mess with people when I'm playing. One of the guys I play, likes to wait until I'm moving into position to shoot the 9 and then ask me a question. I just stop, answer his question, then make the 9. He's done it the last three times we've played, at least I've made money all three times.
Used to know a guy who if you jiggled change four tables over he'd get upset. How he could hear it is anybody's guess.
Used to know a guy who if you jiggled change four tables over he'd get upset. How he could hear it is anybody's guess.
You could bring a girl with you in a pool room and if you started loosing alot your could pretend to be taking it out on her, and start cussing her and get aggresive with her "plan out" to get her to ask you about how yall are going to eat and stuff....just an idea that would probably work on me
raybo147 said:
Oh, that is not sharking, that is just being a poor sport and an a-hole. He was being a crybaby! How ironic!
You have his number now and will lay him to waste every time. If I were you, I would get prepared and play him for the beans.
I haven't read all the post but it sounds like you guys play in some crappy places. If someone is standing in your line of sight everytime you shoot, ask you questions when your shooting the 9, ask you which pocket your shooting the ball in when it is obvious...I dont know it just sounds to me like your hole in the wall bar? Maybe i'm wrong if I am sorry. I work at The Poolroom in marietta/duluth and I do have to say that there just seems to be a classy respect level when people are playing.
Maybe they do its just the music is so loud and with everyone singing along you cant hear them unless they get in your ear, does Ivory still work down there he used to make us free food all the time?
Sharking ....
Everyone doesn't shark on purpose, some people just have annoying personalities and unconscious habits. Sometimes, you have to distinguish between the two.
For instance, I used to play a guy that wore glasses all the time. He seemed to be in my peripheral vision a lot when I shot, and had to push up his glasses 2-3 times before I shot. Was he sharking, or just had bad glasses?
Everyone doesn't shark on purpose, some people just have annoying personalities and unconscious habits. Sometimes, you have to distinguish between the two.
For instance, I used to play a guy that wore glasses all the time. He seemed to be in my peripheral vision a lot when I shot, and had to push up his glasses 2-3 times before I shot. Was he sharking, or just had bad glasses?
theres a group of young guys that come into my room to play and its just hilarious to watch. They all have wads of money on them that could choke a horse, playing 50 and 100 a game, and you might see a 2 or 3 ball run every 3rd game lol. They shark each other something terrible......standing right next to the table or the shot or the guy shooting.....talking to the guy while hes shooting, moving around. I dont play them cuz i have to give up too much weight and deal with the sharking too. You cant shark these guys back, they do it so much its just part of their game now.
I wonder if wearing a T-shirt that says .......
You're going to lose
would be considered sharking
You're going to lose
would be considered sharking
Jimmy M. said:
It's been identified as "neocheating." Neocheating has two criteria: 1.) It is invisible (in fact, usually praised by the victim(s)), and 2.) It is easy (ie, lazy, dishonest players use it often).
Examples in pool are: If your opponent happens to be in your line of sight on a key shot (a nc won't intentionally move there but it happens once in a while, doesn't it?---this occasional situation is enough to give him casino-like advantages--not a big kill but tiny, sure gains in the long run), he'll pretend to stand perfectly still, but really is moving so slightly that the shooter doesn't realize his perspective is changing and thus misses the shot. Anyone watching the neocheater thinks he's being very polite by standing as still as possible (ie, invisible).
Another is your opponent seeming to be friendly and buying you drinks, etc.. Normal, friendly behavior, right? Not in this case. The neocheater is using friendly behavior as his sharking method. He knows he is cheating, but everyone thinks he's just being friendly. It is just enough distraction to take his opponent out of a small portion of his game, but not enough for his opponent to consciously recognize the moves as a distraction.
Then there's "white-hat neocheating." Whnc is where the good guy uses neocheating to thwart the cheater who started it in the first place. It is turning the table, so to speak, on the bad guy, by using a similar technique(s) (easy, invisible) to stop the sharking.
Here's the website that explains the concept in detail...and here's an excerpt from that site to intice you to explore it in more detail:
http://www.neo-tech.com/neocheating/
THE BAD NEWS
This book reveals something new -- something dangerous. This book reveals the lethal techniques of Neocheating.
With Neocheating, the average cardplayer can bankrupt all his opponents. He can safely drain money from any card game, from the easiest Friday-night game to the toughest professional game. And no one will ever see him cheat.
Neocheating is not like classical or traditional cardsharping that requires years of practice or a dangerous reliance on aids such as marked cards and hold-out devices. Neocheating requires no special skills or devices; it requires only the knowledge in this book and a few hours of practice. With less than a day's practice, a player can wipe out his opponents with invisible Neocheating. And with less than a week's practice, he can quit his job to become a full-time professional Neocheater.
Honest players should realize that many cardplayers would cheat if not for (1) their fear of being caught, or for (2) the time and effort required to learn how to cheat effectively. But Neocheating eliminates both deterrents. And as this easy, invisible Neocheating spreads, it will increasingly menace players of poker, blackjack, badge, gin, and all other card games played for money or prestige. ... That is the bad news.
THE GOOD NEWS
But this book reveals something more -- something extraordinary. This book reveals simple defenses and easy counterattacks that nullify or beat all forms of cheating, including Neocheating. The counterattacks are unique, ingenious, and honest. They can be executed in peace and without the knowledge of others...
BTW, the hard copy version of the book is out of print. It can probably be had on ebay...I'd recommend it highly if you're playing pool for money on a regular basis.
Jeff Livingston
Jimmy M. said:I would have to ask again, how are you guys getting sharked that you don't know about it until it's too late? Explain one of these shark tactics to me. If I have some guy "staring into my eyes" while I'm down on the ball I'm just going to think he's a wang lover, but I doubt it would cause me to play bad since I know I'm not into the wang and I'm not interested.If I have some guy puffing air at the pocket while I'm playing I probably wouldn't notice it and I'm pretty certain it wouldn't cause me to miss anything. About the only way I'd think that could affect me is that I might fall over laughing my ass off if I did notice.
I'm sorry. Maybe I'm setting myself up to "be sharked" some time, but I just don't believe that I could successfully be sharked and have no idea what happened. The whole idea behind a shark move is to distract your opponent or do something that would cause them to miss a ball or just play bad in general. These jedi mind tricks sound really cool, but I don't think they have much practical use. Who knows though? Next time I draw some Filipino world-beater in a big tournament, maybe I'll stare into his eyes and snap him off!
LOL.....If you hear from the Juke Box..."Every body Wang Chung tonight".....you may want to take a look at your opponent..he may be telling you something...
I refuse to gaze at your wang, or blow kisses your way, but next time we play, I am going to buy a double grande latte from Starbucks and prop it up in your line of site.....
(and steal yours if you already have one)That's the best shark anyone could could ever come up with against Jimmy. Steal his cues, break into his car, beat him out of thousands, that won't even faze him. But, mess with his StarBucks? Dude, that's suicide.BRKNRUN said:but next time we play, I am going to buy a double grande latte from Starbucks and prop it up in your line of site.....
Dude... no offense intended, but that neocheating thing is just an inside joke imho.
I am a magician and also very well versed in cardsharping as well as knowing more than a couple actual card cheats... honestly the whole "neocheating" thing is thought to be a joke(whethers its just so bad as to be a joke or was intended as a joke who knows)...
I mean, there is some *kinda* decent info, but the only reason its good is because it was ripped from earlier text and then dressed up to be all "new".
Again, props to you if you found something good, but I wouldnt go around quoting it as a source because most of it is bulls@*T.
It's like they took erdnase and mixed in a "self-help" fad to make it appetizing to people....
I am a magician and also very well versed in cardsharping as well as knowing more than a couple actual card cheats... honestly the whole "neocheating" thing is thought to be a joke(whethers its just so bad as to be a joke or was intended as a joke who knows)...
I mean, there is some *kinda* decent info, but the only reason its good is because it was ripped from earlier text and then dressed up to be all "new".
Again, props to you if you found something good, but I wouldnt go around quoting it as a source because most of it is bulls@*T.
It's like they took erdnase and mixed in a "self-help" fad to make it appetizing to people....
The last person to mess with my Starbucks would have been 29 this month.Rude Dog said:That's the best shark anyone could could ever come up with against Jimmy. Steal his cues, break into his car, beat him out of thousands, that won't even faze him. But, mess with his StarBucks? Dude, that's suicide.