Shims

Say what you want.

But a very reputable table mechanic that worked for Orner Billiards in Indianapolis years ago told me they were made out of Charcoal.

I could even give you his name. Unlike that idiot u12armresl who keeps talking about people but won't give anybody any names.
Did you read the ChatGPT link? I too thought you were nuts, but apparently some form of charcoal has been used as a filler material in rubber formulas in the early days of rubber.
 
Anybody have any idea why a reputable table mechanic would have told me Charcoal?

Perhaps that was what was used years ago?
No dog in this fight, but . . . I assume sometime in your life you've picked up a piece of charcoal? If so, you know the answer. But if you believe that, make sure the carpet under the table is black . . . . as coal, which you may get! :D 🎅
 
Did you read the ChatGPT link? I too thought you were nuts, but apparently some form of charcoal has been used as a filler material in rubber formulas in the early days of rubber.
It's been years but if I recall correctly, natural rubber is an off white color. I highly doubt much natural rubber is used much anymore though, but if we're talking historically, the rubber would have come from tree latex. It's a pretty neat process, look up videos on rubber plantations or gum rubber tree processing.
 
Google search said:
Both activated charcoal and the industrially standard carbon black can be used as fillers in rubber, but they offer different properties and performance characteristics. The primary material used in most commercial applications is carbon black, which significantly improves the rubber's strength, durability, and wear resistance, particularly in products like tires.
 
WTF???? are u high or what?? charcoal?????????????????????? your trolling is beyond lame.
I've known the Orner mechanics and the other one he had come down there, they would never tell him charcoal, ever. Incredibly competent people.

Rather than unblock and read what I say he regurgitates the same "even a forum mod her called me an a$$hole"
 
What are you going to do with your new knowledge that every table has a single layer of a rubber pocket facing from the factory?

Was it just curiosity? Or you’re planning something nefarious with the Diamond on order?
 
What are you going to do with your new knowledge that every table has a single layer of a rubber pocket facing from the factory?

Was it just curiosity? Or you’re planning something nefarious with the Diamond on order?

Yes, it was just curiosity. And nope, nothing nefarious with the new Diamond Professional.

I just happened to recall watching an Accu-Stats video awhile back that was from the Sands Regency Tournament in Reno back in the 1990s. I believe it was David Mattox that said the AMF Advantage table they were playing on was not shimmed. Just got me to thinking. I wasn't aware there is always "Something" there.

r/DCP
 
Yes, it was just curiosity. And nope, nothing nefarious with the new Diamond Professional.

I just happened to recall watching an Accu-Stats video awhile back that was from the Sands Regency Tournament in Reno back in the 1990s. I believe it was David Mattox that said the AMF Advantage table they were playing on was not shimmed. Just got me to thinking. I wasn't aware there is always "Something" there.

r/DCP
Yeah, pocket facings were usually 1/8" thick. So a standard pocket (with facing) was 5". Then you'd have a "double shimmed" pocket, which added a second 1/8" facing on top of the first. So that resultant pocket size was 4 3/4". Then "triple shimmed" would be 4 1/2". That's usually as tight as they went. The triple shimmed tables were for the 1 pocket crowd by the counter, the double shimmed were for the 9 ball gambling crowd, and the 5" factory pockets were for the bangers in the back.

It wasn't until Diamond came along in 1990 or so that they changed the standard (with one facing) to 4 1/2", and also added a very deep shelf. Then Brunswick copied the tighter pocket (but not the deeper shelf) and called it the Tournament Edition, starting with the GC4, as an extra cost option.
 
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