i keep hearing talk about the sledgehammer cues becoming illegal in BCA events. anyone know anything about what is going on with it?? i dont own one but am thinkin about gettin one.
sledgehammer becoming illegal?
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What are the sources of the "talk"
I'm interested in the source of the "talk" you keep hearing. I can't claim to be an expert on the machinations of the BCA but the only places I have ever seen this mentioned in any way are in adverts (And of course in the associated Ebay listings) for competing break cues that use leather instead of phenolic tips. This "talk" therefore falls under the motivated self-interest category.
As the BCA is a trade organization they tend to allow almost any type of device to be "BCA legal" if there is a market for that device for their members to exploit. This has certainly be the case for jump cues.
However AFAIK the BCA only have one tournament a year that they recognize (The Vegas BCA Pro tournament) so all the rest are free to follow whatever equipment rules they please. Much more of interest to the majority of the cue buying public would be whether such tips might be banned by the APA, VNEA and UPA.
mindtriplx said:
I'm interested in the source of the "talk" you keep hearing. I can't claim to be an expert on the machinations of the BCA but the only places I have ever seen this mentioned in any way are in adverts (And of course in the associated Ebay listings) for competing break cues that use leather instead of phenolic tips. This "talk" therefore falls under the motivated self-interest category.
As the BCA is a trade organization they tend to allow almost any type of device to be "BCA legal" if there is a market for that device for their members to exploit. This has certainly be the case for jump cues.
However AFAIK the BCA only have one tournament a year that they recognize (The Vegas BCA Pro tournament) so all the rest are free to follow whatever equipment rules they please. Much more of interest to the majority of the cue buying public would be whether such tips might be banned by the APA, VNEA and UPA.
First off the BCA is not just a trade organization but the ex-facto rules organization for all cue sports in the US. Also, it is responsible for the promotion of cue sports. These rules are used in whole or part by every league and group in the US.
I have heard about this rumor. I was told that phenolic tip will still be allowed but there has to be a ferrule.
I do not know if it is true or not. I heard it from a seller in Vegas. This person is quite reputable. I do not believe this person would say something like this without proof just to sell me a cue.
I am very interested to find out the truth. Does anyone know anything?
I do not know if it is true or not. I heard it from a seller in Vegas. This person is quite reputable. I do not believe this person would say something like this without proof just to sell me a cue.
I am very interested to find out the truth. Does anyone know anything?
IT wouldn't be hard to flatten the face of the ferrule and install a leather tip.
drivermaker
Banned
If these rumors keep coming up on a regular basis and it really is an issue, it must say something about the breaking power and effectiveness of a sledgehammer compared to other BK cues. Nobody would even give a rats ass if it broke like crap and the topic would never arise.
drivermaker said:
I tried one out this weekend and I'm getting one.
peace
-egg
I have no idea of the validity of the rumors, however, in another thread about Brent Stottlemyer winning the PA 9-ball championships, it was stated that they used an alternate break format, from the break box and that phoenolic tips were not allowed. I don't under whose auspices this tournament was held, but it could be a harbinger of things to come and lends credibility to the "rumors".
Adios,
Pizza Bob
Adios,
Pizza Bob
They're also tough on the, ahem, balls.drivermaker said:
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onepocketchump
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How would anyone determine what is a "phenolic" tip and what is not? Without chemical inspection no one here can say with 100% accuracy what any tip is composed of. Secondly, none of the tips in use today that I have come across harm pool balls in any way whatsoever. I play pool with a Fury Jump Break cue and I have seen zero harm to any of the cueballs that I have played with as a result. Presumably the cueball is the only ball that could be affected since it is the one being struck with the jump cue tip.
I say that anything should be allowed which does no harm to the equipment, does not execute the shot mechanically, and does not distract the competition.
John
I say that anything should be allowed which does no harm to the equipment, does not execute the shot mechanically, and does not distract the competition.
John
What is the max weight limit allowed for a break cue in most major tournys?
Qnut said:
I think if phonolic tips and ferrule only jump cues are banned somebody will put an extremely thin layer of leather on the tip and it will be legal again with hardly any change in performance. Or they would go back to the tips Instroke originally used with leather mixed in the phenolic (or something like that, I forget exactly what they did), making it legal.
The thin layer of leather was something I was thinking of trying anyways, but I'm not very handy and would probably slice a finger tip off with a razor knife or something.
TheBook said:
I've heard the same rumor. Since they aren't legal anymore, I'm willing to unload the burden of Southwest cues from any owner for $200 per cue. If a fancy specimen is in question, I'm willing to go as high as $250 or even $300 but you'd be breaking my balls there.
Is Phenolic a generic term? because i thought that the Sledgehammer was 1000's pieces of micarda pressed and heated together? I also heard the rumor about the sledgehammer and ALL other Phenolic tips becoming illegal. The only one NOT going to be ban by the BCA is the Stinger?? Just what i heard. But that was also in a stinger ad!?!
matthew staton
Banned
maximillion said:
25 onces is the max no min.