Smoking ban in Houston.

mnorwood

mnorwood

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This week the Houston city council voted to enact a universal smoking ban in public places.

At first I thought this will be bad for pool halls. However, I think there are some positives. People who detest smoke will be more likely to go to a pool hall. I think this opens up pool halls for younger players whose parents do not want them around smoke.

As for the smokers that play pool I think they will still come out to the pool hall and will still buy drinks.

I would like to hear from room owners in other cities who have a smoking ban.
 
mnorwood said:
This week the Houston city council voted to enact a universal smoking ban in public places.

At first I thought this will be bad for pool halls. However, I think there are some positives. People who detest smoke will be more likely to go to a pool hall. I think this opens up pool halls for younger players whose parents do not want them around smoke.

As for the smokers that play pool I think they will still come out to the pool hall and will still buy drinks.

I would like to hear from room owners in other cities who have a smoking ban.
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We have a smoking ban here and it is only smoke free to those places that aren't 21 and up. I'm pretty positive on this. There is an all ages pool hall that is open that doesn't allow smoking until 8:00 PM. But there is still plenty of smoking in the pool halls.

Tony
 
All of Ontario has a smoking ban and it's great. As far as pool halls, for the most part the same people who smoked in the pool halls still come as often as they always did. The only ones that have disappeared are the ones that come in, buy two beers, three or four at most, and watch tv all day. Not much of a loss really.
 
What it does in the short term is cause "feast and famine" zones. The rooms just outside the ban areas get flooded with new customers, and the rooms in the ban zone turn into absolute ghost towns. This is certainly true among the rooms run by my contacts in the Chicago area.
 
smoking ban ? ,,,what they ought to ban in Houston is cars on the interstates,,, those who have been there will know what I'm talking about.
 
I know that in Florida, smoking is banned in resturants and bars. However, a buisness can get around this law if a certain percentage of their profits are from alcohol sales.
 
IMO, I feel that the business owner should have the right to decide if they want to allow smoking or not. The government should not have a right to come in and tell a business owner how to run their business.

I mean, honestly, does anyone go to a bar and expect no one to be smoking? When I go to bars (not that often), I expect the place to be rolling with smoke.

JMO
 
This past July, Colorado enacted a state-wide smoking ban in bars, restauraunts, including pool halls.

Man, I have to tell you - it's GREAT. I love it. No smoke hanging all over the place, no coming home at night smelling like a chimney. The pool halls still get all the smokers - they just step outside for their fix.
 
I'm all for the smoking bans and when they went in place in NY years back it made the pool halls a much more enjoyable place, imo.

I'd have to disagree with your bar analogy. Why should those who do not smoke have to raise their cancer risk in order to enjoy themselves at a bar. Smoking negatively effects everyone, not just the person smoking, and that's the major difference. A waitress for example in an establishment that has smoking is being exposed for hours and hours on end and all she is trying to do is make a living.

I noticed no impact to the business of the pool halls I used to go to except you'd see people standing outside smoking now and then as opposed to being in a room where it was hard to see due to it.

Business owners should have the right to make decisions regarding their business but not regarding my health.
 
we had for quite a while now.. banned in every public place. excepts bars and discos ( on the way next year)
 
GTeye said:
I'm all for the smoking bans and when they went in place in NY years back it made the pool halls a much more enjoyable place, imo.

I'd have to disagree with your bar analogy. Why should those who do not smoke have to raise their cancer risk in order to enjoy themselves at a bar. Smoking negatively effects everyone, not just the person smoking, and that's the major difference. A waitress for example in an establishment that has smoking is being exposed for hours and hours on end and all she is trying to do is make a living.

I noticed no impact to the business of the pool halls I used to go to except you'd see people standing outside smoking now and then as opposed to being in a room where it was hard to see due to it.

Business owners should have the right to make decisions regarding their business but not regarding my health.
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So it's now the government's job to oversee every aspect of your health?

Colin
 
I wish they would do it here in Virginia. I can order a full plate of food at Q-Masters and people all around me will light up like I love the taste of cigarette with my 1/4 pound burger and fries (which by the way are pretty good, minus the smoke). Not to mention I can shoot an exponentially longer time if I don't have smoke irritating my eyes... so I would stay longer and pay more for the table. As it is, I bring Patanol on league nights...
 
Of course.
Just like :

1. Seatbelt requirement (what's the worst that could happen...you die)
2. Motorcyle helmet (same)
3. Gambling laws...can't gamble anywhere in texas. But you can happily go to an indian reservation in oklahoma, or on a boat in louisiana.

I could go on for some time here, I think that while one would argue the second hand smoke rule. It should be up to the owner of the establishment. If they don't like smoke, they don't come. If I smoke, I go to a place that allows it.

Is suicide still legal?
 
Well ...

xidica said:
Of course.
Just like :

1. Seatbelt requirement (what's the worst that could happen...you die)
2. Motorcyle helmet (same)
3. Gambling laws...can't gamble anywhere in texas. But you can happily go to an indian reservation in oklahoma, or on a boat in louisiana.

I could go on for some time here, I think that while one would argue the second hand smoke rule. It should be up to the owner of the establishment. If they don't like smoke, they don't come. If I smoke, I go to a place that allows it.

Is suicide still legal?
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The way the government imposes itself on private lives anymore, you would think the Democrats are in power. The 2nd hand smoke advocates get carried away, and it can not be conclusively be proved anyway. My Grade school principal died of lung cancer, and he never smoked in his life, and was not around smoking in his life. If it is true, how come smoker's dogs DO NOT get cancer?

I thiink Houston will have a hard time with this. I lived there in the early 70's, in fact, I have a BBA degree from the University of Houston, and I just see them trying to enforce this on Telephone Road .... lol
 
They instituted a smoking ban in Madison, WI about a year ago, and it
has really hurt my favorite hall there, Cue-nique. I loved it. As a
non-smoker I used to get contact buzzes all the time, and my eyes
would burn like mad. But overall, the effect wasn't good, and another
pool hall ended up just moving itself to the next town over.
Cue-nique is a real classic place though, and it couldn't ever move
to a different location I don't think.
 
Snapshot9 said:
The way the government imposes itself on private lives anymore, you would think the Democrats are in power. The 2nd hand smoke advocates get carried away, and it can not be conclusively be proved anyway. My Grade school principal died of lung cancer, and he never smoked in his life, and was not around smoking in his life. If it is true, how come smoker's dogs DO NOT get cancer?

I thiink Houston will have a hard time with this. I lived there in the early 70's, in fact, I have a BBA degree from the University of Houston, and I just see them trying to enforce this on Telephone Road .... lol
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http://www.webmd.com/content/article/64/72529.htm

The dog thing I'm going to leave alone...

I tend to trust the general scientific community. The majority isn't split on this topic. It's common knowledge you can get high off a shotgun from someone with a fatty... I don't see how it wouldn't increase your risk of the associated illnesses as well. It just means that the other person's lungs filter out most of the poisons before it gets to your lungs.

I think there should be a nationwide ban on cigarettes in general. They do nothing positive in anyone's lives and definitely screw with my pool game. They stain everything that's exposed to the smoke over time with a film of yellow tar... why would anyone want something so disgusting in their pool room? Who cares if it's been around pool halls for years? They wouldn't have to clean the tables or balls or anything as often, the whole room would be cleaner, and the pool players would live longer :D I definitely want to live longer so I can show up the young punks (i.e. me) when I'm 95 and still have good eyesight because of a smoking ban.
 
So much for 2nd hand smoke.

Brian Piccolo, the Chicago Bears running back behind Gayle Sayers, died of lung cancer at the age of 26, and he never smoked a day in his life. He was a well conditioned athlete.:eek:

I personally like to light up a good cigar when I shoot. It relaxes me. I won't shoot in a pool room that doesn't allow smoking, and the government should stop intervention into our personal lives. If you don't like smoke then don't go into a pool room that allows it, but don't take the choice away from those that do.:mad:
 
Mixed emotions

I have mixed emotions on this stuff. I don't like the fact the government is telling people how to run their business. However, it looks like that before too much longer smoking will be banned everywhere that is public in the whole United States. (I give it 10 years!)

Now from a non smoking stand point I am glad they are doing it, and I don't think anyone should feel it is their right to expose me to 2nd hand smoke. I don't like the stuff and actually I am allergic to it. Anyone that is allergic to it will agree with me when I say that you don't build a tollerance to it, in fact you become more sensitive to it. I can't hardly go into a regular bar and play pool anymore without feeling like hell the next day. I can go into pool halls no problem though cause most have a very good filtration system.

MHO.
 
How long until I have to wear a shark-proof vest into the ocean? Federally mandated to use rounded SAFE-T scissors and plastic knives only? State forced anti-depressant drug therapy? Will they urine test me to make sure I'm taking prozac and throw me in jail if I don't? Will I be unable to get a steak or burger which is cooked rare and a bit bloody?

This has gone to far. The state should not "protect people from themselves". In doing so, we are bypassing one of the most beautiful part's of evolution. Those who are reckless and have a high propensity to die because of that will have less probability of prolonging and continuing their genetic makeup.

Thanks to all you bleeding heart liberals!
 
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