Sneakiest Pete for under $200?

Shotcy said:
Need a sneaky but cant seem to find any I like. Most of them arent sneaky at all and have logos. It would really help my situation if it had 3×8/10 thread as well. Suggestions please.
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Well, you got a lot of good advice. If the Schmelke isn't your thing, then:

For the sneakiest, ask someone like Sheldon Lebow to build a SP with an oil finish. I'd say that my oil finished cues from Sheldon are as sneaky as they get.

Oh, it's a Schmelke blank he used, so there's Schmelke again.

Freddie <~~~ can't escape the Schmelke
 
justinb386 said:
I am sorry, but I do not know that Schmelke makes a great playing cue. I have not tried one out since the 90's. I can't remember anything good about the ones that I tried out when I was a kid. Have you ever seen an A level player who chose a Schmelke, because that is their cue of choice? Do you think that Shane would be using a Cuetec if he was not being paid good money to play with their cues? Have any Pro's ever played for Schmelke, and honestly loved their cues? I will have to try one out again someday, but I just can't imagine myself being happy with one. The same goes for Mali cues for example (which many here believe are great playing cues). I just never liked any of the Mali cues I have ever tried out.
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When I first got my latest schmelke, I left it on a table for about three hours and it didn't miss a ball. Then I picked it up and missed many times during the next three hours.

Why do you think you need to chime in on every post? You haven't played with a Schmelke in so long that you don't know anything about them.

You aren't happy with any cue.
 
^ HaHa Tell it Poppa:shakehead:

And Freddie >> I have a few old blank maple Brunswick conversion SP's I stripped and applied my hand rubbed oil finish to. Ready to strip the Schmelke SP I have raw and give her the 'rub down' treatment but that stock Melke Coco finish looks so Purdy.

I personally love that 'natural' finish feel. That high gloss 'sticks' when sliding and a fingerprint magnet.

-Kat,
 
pudgie100 said:
My thoughts

The Schmelke cue looks to fit the description, not sure how it plays.

Maybe I missed something but why not buy a house cue, a one piece and take it to a cue maker and have them put in a joint. I'am sure they could do additional turning if you want a different butt diameter or shaft taper. That might go past the dollar limit set but not sure.
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I imagine that would cost a lot (the cost of the conversion from a house cue, from a decent trustworthy cue maker). Might not be worth all of the costs involved.
 
justinb386 said:
I imagine that would cost a lot (the cost of the conversion from a house cue, from a decent trustworthy cue maker). Might not be worth all of the costs involved.
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Can you slow down a bit? There's a lot of good advice that you're running over.
 
PoppaSaun said:
When I first got my latest schmelke, I left it on a table for about three hours and it didn't miss a ball. Then I picked it up and missed many times during the next three hours.

Why do you think you need to chime in on every post? You haven't played with a Schmelke in so long that you don't know anything about them.

You aren't happy with any cue.
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I know that they are cheap (they must be the cheapest priced cues made in the USA, other then maybe Dale Perry cues), and when it comes to cues (or anything in life), you get what you pay for. How good could the quality possibly be, at the price of $100 (retail value)? I imagine they are just fine for the low level APA players. I understand that a lot of cue makers use their blanks, but how good are the factory stock cues (that retail for under $200)? Are they really the best value on the market for under $200? I know you can't buy much (of a good quality cue) for under $200 these days (not even on the used market). Actually, I do not know, because I have yet to try out a Schmelke. I think there are 2 options for under $200 (for a cue made in the USA). Either a DP cue, or a Schmelke. Most of the the other American made cues (like Mcdermott for example) have their import lines (from Asia) for under $200.
 
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Cornerman said:
Can you slow down a bit? There's a lot of good advice that you're running over.
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Does it really matter? Nobody respects anything that I ever post. Most of my posts are probably laughable to everyone who reads them.

Everyone who uses a Schmelke seems to love their cues (and post great reviews about them on here, and many cue makers use their blanks to build cues), so they must be good quality cues. I always hated the looks of their cues though, and that strange looking unique joint that they use on some of their cues in the past (it is still an option, but I guess they mostly use the 3/8x10 joint these days).

I am so poor, that I can't even afford a Schmelke. I use a beat up Helmstetter TJ cue that I picked up for $35 at a pawn shop.

Sorry, my posts are stupid, and just a waste of space.
 
justinb386 said:
I imagine that would cost a lot (the cost of the conversion from a house cue, from a decent trustworthy cue maker). Might not be worth all of the costs involved.
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Cornerman said:
Can you slow down a bit? There's a lot of good advice that you're running over.
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Or to put it another way...

When we are "imagining" or just guessing about something we really don't know about, or when we are just talking out loud, or when we are not completely positive and confident about something, it is at those times where we should sit back and read, listen, and learn, or even ask questions.

When we have valuable information that we are confident and sure about, and can effectively communicate that piece of knowledge, then those are the times to contribute and post.

These are pretty good rules of thumb. It keeps us from wasting other people's time, or even worse yet, accidentally misinforming someone, and on the plus side we also end up learning more that way ourselves and become smarter more knowledgeable individuals. Everybody wins.
 
justinb386 said:
I am sorry, but I do not know that Schmelke makes a great playing cue. I have not tried one out since the 90's. I can't remember anything good about the ones that I tried out when I was a kid. Have you ever seen an A level player who chose a Schmelke, because that is their cue of choice? Do you think that Shane would be using a Cuetec if he was not being paid good money to play with their cues? Have any Pro's ever played for Schmelke, and honestly loved their cues? I will have to try one out again someday, but I just can't imagine myself being happy with one. The same goes for Mali cues for example (which many here believe are great playing cues). I just never liked any of the Mali cues I have ever tried out.
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Just because folks can buy more expensive, does not mean better. More expensive wood and fancy inlays does not make a cue "better", it only makes it prettier and more collectible.

And yes, I know plenty of good players that play with a Schmelke. Heck, I know of one Master Instructor as well.

You don't have much money and you are not much of a player, but you have an opinion of everything, most of it negative. Why not just shut up and listen for while, you might just learn something. Just saying.
 
smashmouth said:
what exactly is the point of requiring a true sneaky nowadays?
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Read the past posts, please.

Used in poor 3rd World pool rooms to not look like a show off foreigner.

Also, not to look like money and get rolled.

Affordability. Not everyone has money.

There are so few quality "True Sneaky Petes" available.
See the post listing the design requirements.

What's the point of any good cue?

Why wraps?
Why rings?
Why butt caps?
Why joints?
Why so shiny?
Why inlays?

Different strokes for different folks. (No pun intended).
 
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Not sure why anyone would want a "true sneaky" when every APA 2 carries a playing cue, break cue, and jump cue, plus an extension.
I mean, how shi##y are the players you're trying to sneak up on? I'm serious
Jason
 
The best way to not being an obnoxious american is to not be an @&& . If you think a cue is gonna change their opinion of you, you probably have bigger issues - just sayin
Jason
 
jasonlaus said:
Not sure why anyone would want a "true sneaky" when every APA 2 carries a playing cue, break cue, and jump cue, plus an extension.
I mean, how shi##y are the players you're trying to sneak up on? I'm serious
Jason
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OMG Jason. :confused::confused::confused:

Read the original posts that started this thread. 4th time explaining this.

I Need a Quality SP to use in 3rd World pool rooms so that I don't look like Money and get rolled.
I also want to fit in because I am a guest in their country and don't want to show off.

There are so few quality true sneaky petes made.

Tradition. How do you think the original break-down cues were made?
 
jasonlaus said:
The best way to not being an obnoxious american is to not be an @&& . If you think a cue is gonna change their opinion of you, you probably have bigger issues - just sayin
Jason
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You have obviously never been to pool room in Mexico or South America.

How about a bar with one pool table in a small province of Mindanao? Cambodia? China?

Who is being the obnoxious American now, @&&!
 
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mchnhed said:
You have obviously never been to pool room in Mexico or South America.

How about a bar with one pool table in a small province of Mindanao? Cambodia? China?

Who is being the obnoxious American now, @&&!
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You call me an ass? I see the problem now, no cue is going to help you. I've played pool in other countries, and guess what, i got along with everybody.

What you need is a new personality not a cue
Jason
 
Surprised so many people are suggesting sneaky petes that arent sneaky at all. I guess I should have put it in my first main post that I live in newfoundland Canada and there are a lot of small towns with small town bars with tables. I own a good cue that I use to practice my main game or for the league. When I go into a bar where no one knows me and im just hitting balls by myself to past time it would be nice to have a plane jane stick as opposed to something that could intimidate people.
 
Shotcy said:
Surprised so many people are suggesting sneaky petes that arent sneaky at all. I guess I should have put it in my first main post that I live in newfoundland Canada and there are a lot of small towns with small town bars with tables. I own a good cue that I use to practice my main game or for the league. When I go into a bar where no one knows me and im just hitting balls by myself to past time it would be nice to have a plane jane stick as opposed to something that could intimidate people.
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Stop looking at the not-so-sneaky petes, then. There are plenty of suggestions for "true Sneakys." Please give those that are helping you some credit.

If you're concerned about "intimidating people," then I doubt any suggestion is going to help. Players usually can tell if a player is a player, Pete or no Pete.


Freddie <~~~ not sneaky
 
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