Snooker break and out.

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Cameron Smith

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No I didn't achieve this. However I was playing a guy today and on my break off I hit the pack a little bit harder than usual (not too hard though). A red trickled into to the corner pocket. I then potted a tough brown into the side pocket and left myself on a red. I went on to run a break of 36 before my opponent even had his first turn.

From time to time it does happen that you fluke a red on the break. But I was wondering, has it ever occured that a player flukes a red and then runs 74 or more points effectively achieving a break and out? Is anyone aware of such an instance? I did it once, but it was on a PS2 game :D.
 
I know that Eddie Charlton once made 2 straight table clearances, breaking and making a ball in the 2nd game, for a continuous run of around 270.

Quinten Hann used to sometimes smash the balls on the break to try to break and run to 70+. I'm sure he achieved this occaissionally in tournaments.

But they way most pros break, it would be vary rare in tournies.
 
Colin Colenso said:
Quinten Hann used to sometimes smash the balls on the break to try to break and run to 70+. I'm sure he achieved this occaissionally in tournaments.
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I remember Hann doing this at the World Championships a few years ago and the commentators going nuts over it. They were not happy, saying something along the lines of "if he wants to break like that, he should stick to playing pool" and also saying that it was showing disrespect to the game and the tournament.
 
My friend has made a red off the break and proceeded to make a total clearance. So, it was a break and run. He's one of the top players in Finland and has a high run of 140-something...
 
fred_in_hoboken said:
People keep talking about how hard snooker is. I don't buy it.

Granted, I've never played it- but I have watched a few matches online, and people almost never miss!

Even when they "miss", they don't miss!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=RYIRyWlQ80M&search=snooker
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I've been playing pool for a couple of years now. And I have lpayed snooker before. The table is much bigger and the pockets are smaller. Worse yet, the pockets are rounded so its very hard to rattle something into a pocket or even leave it hanging. If you can pocket balls center pocket every time, snooker is a bit of an adjustment but you can pick it up after a while. But believe me, that game is every bit as hard as people say it is!!! It is fun and challenging but make no mistake about it - it is NOT easy!
 
fred_in_hoboken said:
People keep talking about how hard snooker is. I don't buy it.

Granted, I've never played it- but I have watched a few matches online, and people almost never miss!

Even when they "miss", they don't miss!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=RYIRyWlQ80M&search=snooker
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But these players who do not miss are the best in the World, that is what they do!

They make it look stupidly easy, until you play on a proper Snooker table you will not fully appreciate the complexities of the game.
 
I think Fred was joking. I may be wrong, but I thought his post was just a chance to post a link to a humorous shot, and a commentary on the fact that if you search the internet for snooker videos, the first several you're likely to find are all 147's. To the casual observer, it could appear that all snooker frames are maximum breaks. It must be an extremely easy game!

-Andrew
 
Andrew Manning said:
I think Fred was joking. I may be wrong, but I thought his post was just a chance to post a link to a humorous shot, and a commentary on the fact that if you search the internet for snooker videos, the first several you're likely to find are all 147's. To the casual observer, it could appear that all snooker frames are maximum breaks. It must be an extremely easy game!

-Andrew
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Yes, I was. Perhaps a smiley would have helped.

I would actually like to see a frame that isn't a maximum.
 
That's what I loved about the streaming video from the World Championships last year. I spent about 12 hours watching last year. Granted, they didn't miss often, but it was a lot of fun to watch. Basically it was first person to make a mistake lost the frame. Sometimes they would miss a potable ball, but it was very rare. Lots of tension and back & forth stuff. I thought it was kind of cool that they would take a break every couple of hours for quite a long time. Seemed like they had it scheduled for a few hours in the afternoon and then a few at night. If they weren't done, they would wait till the next day. None of that keeping everybody up all night sweating a long match.
 
fred_in_hoboken said:
Yes, I was. Perhaps a smiley would have helped.

I would actually like to see a frame that isn't a maximum.
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www.worldsnooker.com

go to the interactive page, they have 5 video's. One maximum which I'm sure you've seen before (Ronnie's 5 minute one), a 70+ break by Stephen Hendry, the entire final frame between Ronnie O'Sullivan and Paul Hunter (you can learn a bit about strategy here because the highest run here is 30 I think), and then two others which I can't remember what the matches were.
 
mjantti said:
My friend has made a red off the break and proceeded to make a total clearance. So, it was a break and run. He's one of the top players in Finland and has a high run of 140-something...
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If he did this then his high run would be 147. Pretty rare indeed. Does he play professionally?

John
 
onepocketchump said:
If he did this then his high run would be 147. Pretty rare indeed. Does he play professionally?

John
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It would only be 147 if he always potted the black. He could break and runout without always potting the black.
 
thecardman said:
I remember Hann doing this at the World Championships a few years ago and the commentators going nuts over it.
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I like to do it when we're playing for fun - it makes the game a good old shoot out and your just as likely to pot one as leave one.

My best ever break was in my first season in a local league. I've never been able to reproduce it, or even seen it done by anyone else. I hit the ball a little wider than intended, catching the end red of the pack. This went to the top cushion and returned to it's original postion. The opposite corner red went across to the side cushion and returned to it's original position. The pack looked like it hadn't been touched. Meanwhile the cue ball went around the angles to finish hard up behind the green. I actually made 10 points out of it. Firstly, my opponent hadn't been looking, and did'nt know I'd broken off. He picked up the white ball to play from hand, giving me 4 points. The look on his face when the ref called foul was priceless. It was their club, but even his mates were laughing. Then he rested up against the pink when the shot was replayed giving me another 6. He never seemed to recover and at the end of the game was still asking the spectators if I'd really broken off.

Boro Nut
 
shinobi said:
It would only be 147 if he always potted the black. He could break and runout without always potting the black.
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True. Sometimes I have a brain fart. Often it's brain diarhea.

John
 
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