snooker ferrules

deanoc

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what are they made of?what effect do they have on play?

Is it possible that is all that is keeping me from playing like Ronnie O Sullivan?
 
what are they made of?what effect do they have on play?

Is it possible that is all that is keeping me from playing like Ronnie O Sullivan?
Brass. A strong metal. If they used brass on 13mm pool cues the squirt would be horrendous, but 10mm cues with 2 & 2 1/16" balls have squirt characteristics similar to LD pool cues.
 
the Englishmen are so strong traditionalists that they have hardly ever tried to replace brass with phenolics, LBM, etc. materials. That's a bit weird.

On a second thought, I think snooker players are most often DIYers when it comes to tip installs. Then brass ferrules could forgive many errors when facing and trimming. Probably that counts as well.
 
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the Englishmen are so strong traditionalists that they have hardly ever tried to replace brass with phenolics, LBM, etc. materials. That's a bit weird.

On a second thought, I think snooker players are most often DIYers when it comes to tip installs. Then brass ferrules could forgive many errors when facing and trimming. Probably that counts as well.

I believe the reason why they re-tip the cues themselves is because you can not use a lathe on a snooker cue really, they also kinda obsess over their tips and the shape. I had my snooker tip redone and he used a lathe and f***ed my cue up. It has all kinds of dents near the bottom and had some wood chipped out of it. I am still pretty pissed about the whole situation as the guy who replaced the tip failed to mention the damage to me before I discovered it at home.
 
The biggest reasons snooker players frequently tip their own cues, is that the most popular tips are extremely cheap, only need a stanley knife and glue, and replacing a tip is so simple that anyone lacking the dexterity to do it properly probably wouldn't notice if they picked the cue up the wrong way round.

When you pay $30 per tip and should use a lathe, it's not so straightforward.
 
the Englishmen are so strong traditionalists that they have hardly ever tried to replace brass with phenolics, LBM, etc. materials. That's a bit weird.

I recommend you look into what Mike Wooldridge is doing with his controversially titled "Blackspin" ferrules.
 
I recommend you look into what Mike Wooldridge is doing with his controversially titled "Blackspin" ferrules.

Or anything else Mike is doing,,,,,,,,,,, he's an amazing cuemaker. I had him make a black shark for me a few tears ago.
 
I recommend you look into what Mike Wooldridge is doing with his controversially titled "Blackspin" ferrules.

do you know how I could get my hands on a blackspin ferrule to try out. I want to put one on my cue but haven't found them sold separately. I would love to get a MW cue but I just can't justify spending that kind money on a cue at the moment.
 
FWIW: I've used goat's horn, cow horn and plastic type ferrules on snooker cues and a friend had a titanium ferrule made. It's just rare to see anything other than brass.

Most pros use a shorter and thinner brass ferrule than the ones that come standard with cheap cues.
 
the Englishmen are so strong traditionalists that they have hardly ever tried to replace brass with phenolics, LBM, etc. materials. That's a bit weird.

On a second thought, I think snooker players are most often DIYers when it comes to tip installs. Then brass ferrules could forgive many errors when facing and trimming. Probably that counts as well.
Every snooker player should be able to tip their cue. I learned from a young age how to do it and after practicing for 4 days straight with 6 boxes of Elks and 3 tubes of glue on an old cue I learned how to perfect it to my needs. You don't have much time in competition if your tip flies off to put a new one on, so I had a stop watch on and tried to get it done in under 7 minutes. I got there in the end.

When I compare the ferrule of my current Parris cue to one of my very first cues the difference is massive in how they play. The Parris cue is slightly smaller in all aspects and much much thinner. Cheap cues have heavy thick ferrules where as the more expensive cues have thinner ferrules, both made of brass, to help with squirt. My Parris cue squirts a decent amount still, but I kept it because it really helps my break off and length of the table safties. On the break off it requires no compensation at all. The amount of squirt is cancelled perfectly by the swerve at that distance and speed to get back into baulk. And my strongest part of my game is length of table safties with side because of the little to no compensation required. That is the only reason I stuck with this cue for the last 10 years or so.

This is why I don't see all the hype with LD shafts in pool. Most don't suit a players natural bridge length. Find a cue that does and you will play with it for your entire life.
 
snooker guys are traditionalists but that's all changing

there's some big guns getting into the low deflection game stating with Riley and their G2's with Kamui tips of all things, Accurate is another

I've noticed a plethora of newer UK shops selling all manners of gear, this was not the case a few years ago

the rise of UK pool and US pool in the UK i think has totally helped snooker and the cuesports industry in the uk
 
it is hard to keep these threads on subject
who will send me a brass ferrule for a 12 mm tip

send the size and type ronnie o uses
i will pay you
i will put it on a shaft and report back the results

dean
 
it is hard to keep these threads on subject
who will send me a brass ferrule for a 12 mm tip

send the size and type ronnie o uses
i will pay you
i will put it on a shaft and report back the results

dean

Ferrules usually are not made from brass stock, but from work hardened extruded tube.
In most hobby stores, they sell K&S brass tube, it is usually all in inch sizes, but it is sized in 1/32 steps. 15/32 is 11.9 mm fairly close to 12 mm.
Cut it with a sharp parting tool.
Neil
 
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