Snooker Line of Aim video
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They do? This is a pretty general statement. I am sure that there are millions of bad snooker players with poor fundamentals just like there are millions of pool players with bad fundamentals.
And guess what, in pool players don't all have to have the same stance and stoke to get the job done. When Bustamante is laying down a 10 pack on you with his loopy stroke and staring into space alignment you will be mesmerized by his skill.
So far no snooker player has won a World Championship. Any snooker player can come over here and get HUGE action with SVB or any of the Filipinos in ten ball or rotation, one pocket or even 8 ball. It OUGHT to be easy money for them since they are superior to pool players in every way yet none of them even try.
And yes I am well aware that no pool player could even qualify for Snooker world championships. I concede that Snooker is much much harder than pool. Still no snooker champion has ever dominated any pool tour. I believe that a snooker champion may have won decently sized pro pool events but I can't think of one right now.
The point is that in pool players don't have to be as precise, they don't have to have the same cueing action as snooker players do. They still are able to run hundreds of balls and plenty of racks and make tough shots under pressure.
Would they be better if they did adopt snooker methods? Maybe and maybe not. Professional pool players aren't stupid and they know full well how snooker players stand and address the ball. It would be silly to think that some of them haven't looked across the ocean at their snooker counterparts and studied what they do and seen the money that they make. Maybe pool professionals use the stance and stroking techniques that they have BECAUSE that's what works best for pool.
I tend to take the evolutionary view and believe that the reason pool is played the way it is because the nature of the task demands it.
I have seen snooker players who have changed the way they play while adapting to pool. You can still the see the heavy snooker influence when they play but if you followed their game then you can see that they have adopted some techniques from pool and bended them into a hybrid style. Out of necessity I believe.
Darryl Peach ?
I'm not debating pool players vs snooker players. A pool player's technique works better for pool than a snooker player's and vice versa. Yes I'm pretty sure that a snooker player (this is a serious tournament player, not just a club player) dedicates more time to his technique than a pool player with a similar level of dedication. That's because it is EVERYTHING in snooker to have a perfect cue action, it's not 100% vital in pool. Pool players are better at jumping, breaking, using side and in general running out (snooker players finish straight far too often out of habit) and that is why snooker players don't compete at pool. They would of course learn all of these things with time and practice but they have no desire or reason to do so. Anyway I'm not sure how we got onto this subject of SP's vs PP's it wasn't my intention to get into this debate, I was just stating facts about how SP's practice. Sorry if this post wasn't put together well, I wrote it out in full twice only for my phone to malfunction and for me to have to start over :frown: And yes, I am from England and gave played quite a fee snooker pros.
Tony Drago has had quite a lot of success too.
I once asked Efren why he didn't play snooker instead b/c the prizes are so much better than in pool.
He flat out said, " can't beat them."
Yes! But Daryl was never a top snooker player, and I think he switched to pool pretty early in his career.
Yeah I can tell you that snooker players are RIDICULOUSLY good at snooker. As an aspiring pro watching them is nearly enough to make me want to give up at times, they're just too good. I practiced with a player who is on the main tour but ranked in about the 90's and he is contemplating giving it up to own a small grocery store. He's made 9 147's. Insane.
Men snooker players.
The women don't count BECAUSE the women's pool game on average is well below that of men.
Of course though you are right and I should have mentioned that.
However - IF you look at the current Asian women's players who aren't brought up on Snooker then you can see that with the proper training they are jsut as deadly as Allison and Karen.
And of course Jasmin Ouschan is living proof that a "pool player" can be just as competitive as a snooker player on the pool table.
Yeah you can find 9 footers or barboxes just as easily if not easier than a snooker table here.
Yeah, there are leagues for all three. Pool is slowly overtaking snooker in popularity over here.
Snooker and pool are two different games with a lot of overlap skill but still significant differences
Only the other day i watched a match for around 5 years ago from the World Pool Championships, Mark Williams who was at the time the World Snooker champ v Earl Strickland
Earl won 5-3 i think it was
Mark had no problem with open runouts but struggled with the break, safety and kicking.
No one can switch cuesports and dominate right away
Darren Appleton has switched cuesports very successfully but he has put in a hell of a lot of time learning the american pool game. Before that, Darren was one of the best UK 8ball players for over a decade.
But there is no doubt a snooker player can get closer to a 9ball player at 9ball than a 9ball player can get to a snooker player at snooker right off the bat
Jimmy white lost something like 11-9 or 11-10 to Efren Reyes at one of the World 9ball championships. At snooker, at that same point in time, it would have been 11-0 or 11-1 to Jimmy.
Thing is the top snooker players have no incentive to switch cuesports because there is more money in snooker than American pool at this point in time.
There is more money in American pool than UK 8ball pool which is why Darren Appleton and Karl Boyes switches cuesports, and have done well.
I think it's great that 9ball has such a melting pot of different cueists
Only the other day i watched a match for around 5 years ago from the World Pool Championships, Mark Williams who was at the time the World Snooker champ v Earl Strickland
Earl won 5-3 i think it was
Mark had no problem with open runouts but struggled with the break, safety and kicking.
No one can switch cuesports and dominate right away
Darren Appleton has switched cuesports very successfully but he has put in a hell of a lot of time learning the american pool game. Before that, Darren was one of the best UK 8ball players for over a decade.
But there is no doubt a snooker player can get closer to a 9ball player at 9ball than a 9ball player can get to a snooker player at snooker right off the bat
Jimmy white lost something like 11-9 or 11-10 to Efren Reyes at one of the World 9ball championships. At snooker, at that same point in time, it would have been 11-0 or 11-1 to Jimmy.
Thing is the top snooker players have no incentive to switch cuesports because there is more money in snooker than American pool at this point in time.
There is more money in American pool than UK 8ball pool which is why Darren Appleton and Karl Boyes switches cuesports, and have done well.
I think it's great that 9ball has such a melting pot of different cueists
9 ball isn't a very good comparison when looking at snooker players foray into pool. Obviously it's all we have to look at, but it doesn't really do pool justice.
Obviously pool players haven't had much success competing at professional snooker. However snooker players would have an equally difficult time if they competed in a world championship wherein the game was straight pool 400 point games in each round (roughly a 6 hour match which would be similar to a first round match in the world snooker championships).
They would have similar difficulties in One Pocket. Pool has games of similar difficulty, they just aren't played as often.
Obviously pool players haven't had much success competing at professional snooker. However snooker players would have an equally difficult time if they competed in a world championship wherein the game was straight pool 400 point games in each round (roughly a 6 hour match which would be similar to a first round match in the world snooker championships).
They would have similar difficulties in One Pocket. Pool has games of similar difficulty, they just aren't played as often.