Snooker table question...

3kushn said:
But A Verhoeven is a T-Rail so the Cobra may turn you down.

Gabriels run their bolts through the top/bottom of the slate.
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On the 9' Diamond billiard table I designed, you can bank the cue ball 9 rails....not banking short, no heated slate, in the non air conditioned factory, with Simonis 860HR installed on the table....because I didn't design the rails after what's already been designed by everyone else, and that's with only using the Artemis Intercontinental K55 cushions on the rails:thumbup:
 
realkingcobra said:
If, and when I finish Diamonds 10' billiard table, it's not going to be like any other billiards table ever built:grin: I'm not into copying mistakes already made by other manufacturers;)
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I looking forward to seeing what you have in mind. I have my own ideas but they will never be tested as I don't have the means, the time nor the experience to know if I'm full of crap or not.

There's trade offs to both current/common bolting solutions. The basic 2 trade offs deal with the obvious. Where tension is applied and not.
 
3kushn said:
But A Verhoeven is a T-Rail so the Cobra may turn you down.

Gabriels run their bolts through the top/bottom of the slate.
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I had no idea how they were put together....and I've seen one recovered. :o
I didn't wait to see the rails put on.

What I praise them for is how solid they are.....I haven't done it to all makes, but when I
bump a 6x12 eight legged table with my hip....I expect the table to tremble.
When you do the same thing to a Verhoeven, you feel you hit a tank.



Thanx for the info, Three....that's why I come to AZ
 
realkingcobra said:
Greg and I have talked about the possibility of building a professional snooker table, so maybe...we'll see:grin:
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Aloha

RKC, if you do decide to build a Diamond Snooker table, I would like to be on the list to buy one. Or maybe I could be a test subject for the new design. Got the room, just looking for the right table.

Aloha
 
pt109 said:
I had no idea how they were put together....and I've seen one recovered. :o
I didn't wait to see the rails put on.

What I praise them for is how solid they are.....I haven't done it to all makes, but when I
bump a 6x12 eight legged table with my hip....I expect the table to tremble.
When you do the same thing to a Verhoeven, you feel you hit a tank.



Thanx for the info, Three....that's why I come to AZ
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They are indeed very solid and so is Gabriel. 50 & 60mm slates don't hurt. Steel I-beam on the Gabriel and rock solid frame on the Verhoeven add to both. BTW the rail bolts on the Verhoeven don't go into the slates like the old Brunswick's. Verhoeven rails at much better.

As far as Granite on the Gabriel? It may not add but it sure as heck doesn't subtract. Heavy is good.
 
peppersauce said:
What's the advantage of steel block construction anyway? Just from watching snooker on YouTube, the head and foot rails seem to play ludicrously fast. I've never played on a steel block snooker table though and I don't know anything about the difference in construction of the rails on pool tables vs snooker tables, other than cushion profile.

If the only difference is cushion rebound speed, I don't think pool tables need it. I've played on a lot of pool tables that were lightning fast, with very reactive cushions.
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I found this site informative about the history of cushions as well as steel block rails.

It appears steel block is both more costly to build and also more difficult to service.

http://www.snookerheritage.co.uk/normans-lectures/billiard-table-cushions/
 
Albatross Cues said:
Aloha

RKC, if you do decide to build a Diamond Snooker table, I would like to be on the list to buy one. Or maybe I could be a test subject for the new design. Got the room, just looking for the right table.

Aloha
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Well, you're not the first on the list, I have another customer in Salt Lake City that has ready claimed that position....:grin:

That's why I like working with Diamond, they have no fear about creating changes in this industry and don't care who likes it, just as long as it's better than what's already being done by everyone else:thumbup:
 
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You guys do realize the slates are not mounted to the frame of the table it sits on right? They're just laying across the frame, then tied together with the rails, but not mounted anywhere;)
 
realkingcobra said:
You guys do realize the slates are not mounted to the frame of the table it sits on right? They're just laying across the frame, then tied together with the rails, but not mounted anywhere;)
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I have never seen a 6x12 with the slate attached to the frame...
...I guess they feel the weight alone is good enough for stability.

I've always felt that the table would play better with screws.
I know a company tried that system with their pool tables also...
...the mechanics had to drill...
 
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