Snooker - The Crucible Final

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Double-Dave

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I started this thread so we can keep all you guys that don't have access to the BBC up to date about the Snooker World Championship final between Graeme Dott and Peter Ebdon. The score currently is 11-5 in Graeme's favor, race to 18, and he looks to be the better player at the moment. However, Peter has more determination than anyone on the snooker scene, and he has certainly not given up. The second session showed alot better snooker than the first, which was as entertaining as going to the dentist. I really suspect it's going to be a tight afair. Something like 13-11 going in to the final session.
I will be updating this thread as often as I can/want. Anyone who's also following the final feel free to join in, especially since I won't be online for the entire remaining parts of the final. Who's going to win it? I have to make Graeme a 60-40 favorite.

gr. Dave
 
Thx, Dave. I'll try to do my share to update this thread with results.

What comes to winner i think it's pretty much 50-50 'cause Dott hasn't won any major tournaments and Ebdon has; so closing to last games it is a bit favor to more routined player, IMO.
 
So far it has been one of the worst finals in recent years IMO. The session finished last night at 12-30, I am sure the audience couldn't wait to leave the Crucible! :)
 
12-5 Bit of a scrappy frame, but a nice break (though not framewinning) from Graeme. Great opening red and green from Peter, let's see what he can do this frame.
 
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i admit till now its a very boring match. i think score will be 10-17 for dott, but i hope not, and i hope it gets to a close hill hill just to give at least some exciting final frames, cuz im falling a sleep...

ebdon just cant seem to get into gear, and id say 6-12 score for playing a final with your b game isa good result? Dott seems to be in in the zone. He knows there wont be many chances for him to win the final anytime soon, he just HAS to take it now. Ebdon was playing greath with 3 chances for a 147 in the matches before,but now its just ... trying to not make the gap bigger, and hope he gets in stroke again before the match is over.

ill update the score too
 
internet viewing?

I remember watching some of this event on the internet last year. Has anyone in the U.S been able to find a service that we can view live? I think last year was a German site that may have tapped into the BBC stream, from memory.
 
i fancy ebdon to find SOME kind of form back, but dott is leading 7-12 nox (7-13 probably, and his highest break in the HOLE match was 62. Ebdon is giving it away kinda. Its just old time sakes snooker, slow, tactical, its not a modern kind of final where u see guys do 6 straight racks with centuries.

i fancy dott to win, even with peter finding some kind of form, dott is just totally in the zone. it seems like ebdon cant get in controle. He seems to be just shooting and praying.

i fancy dott to win, not for the score how it is now, but just by how they walk around the table. sometimes its just how people apear, there aura who can tell u will win and right now dotts aura is shining victory and ebdon is shining doubts.


(ps added, if ebdon win this frame for 8-12 he might come hill hill, if not i think dot will cruse to the 18the win, (maybe lose one or two in the end with the nerves of winning his first titel). but just my 2c :) edited:some nice comeback move from ebdon who was needing snookers, cleared and played a very nice safety to make it 8-12, but wasnt enough to win. Score is now after dott taking 2 of the next 3 frames

17pts - 7(35)14 - 8pts and ebdon just missed a tipycal 14-1move, to cut the red in the corner and open the back frmo below the rack. he missed the keyball and leaves table open for dott... its just no hapening for ebdon.

mm interesting frame.. dott his aura is showing some stress. and ebdon is in the "i-dont-got-anything-to-lose-for-anymore" zone, and he seems to finding his way back . hope the score will prove what i feel, but.. still 5$ on dott from my side
 
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Rerack

BBC has mentioned a "rerack" several times. Can someone explain to us non-snookerites what a rerack is and when it's called for? I can't seem to find it in the rules online.

Example:

"Frame 21: The frame starts with a rerack after Dott attempts to lay a snooker behind the black and comes up short."
 
rerack is when the frame is played over. all the balls are reset in place, score is qet to 0-0 and they replay the frame. It can be asked by any player, and its the opponent who descides if he wishes a rerack too. In matter of rulez who has the final call etc... no idea, but it usually happens, when for example all the balls are blocked on one side, filled with colours and its just a very crappy rack.

Or when no 'cool' safety can be played, and both players are just moving the cb 2mm each shot against the pack of reds , to touch one red, and the frame is taking to long...

many choices possible, hope i explained it ok with my crappy english
 
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rerack is when the frame is played over. all the balls are reset in place, score is qet to 0-0 and they replay the frame. It can be asked by any player, and its the opponent who descides if he wishes a rerack too. In matter of rulez who has the final call etc... no idea, but it usually happens, when for example all the balls are blocked on one side, filled with colours and its just a very crappy rack.

Or when no 'cool' safety can be played, and both players are just moving the cb 2mm each shot against the pack of reds , to touch one red, and the frame is taking to long...

many choices possible, hope i explained it ok with my crappy english
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Ah, so it's kind of like a stalemate by mutual agreement? Thanks! Is this common in competitive snooker?
 
I'd say it happens once in every 100 frames or so. I haven't seen all that much of the Crucible this year but I didn't see a rerack, or did I miss one? Dennis taylor mentioned btw he had the record for the longest play in a frame before a rerack, it was 54 minutes.

It's usually as Solar described when the cueball is buried in the pack of reds early in the frame which is often caused by an escape from a safety over two rails into the back of the reds. The players will then sometimes feel forced to just roll up against the nearest red (no rail required) again and again.

Usually the players decide amongst themselves but off course the ref has the final say. He may agree with a rerack straight away, or tell the players they have to try for a couple more times. The referee can also implement a rerack without the players requesting it first.
 
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double that dave.

so score before the last interval 8-16. dott 2 frames away from his titel.
PS anyone bet on him? im sure u are already partying then now. I wonder how much he was rated at the beginning of the tournament.

going to get some "fritten" and then hope im back before the interval is over.
 
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Dott has the first chance. Looks pretty good he's on 15 needs a good position of black. score 15-7 in frames. Dott missed break 22
 
Now ebdon has a great chance after a good opening red. He's at 14 opened op the reds nicely he's at 23, now at 37 this should be the frame
 
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Peter looks to be playing very well, another great red in the center, and he's clinched the frame score 15-8 in a minute, century looks on.
 
Ebdon is playing very strong now. Nice openings with reds and very solid pots. 76-22 this frame at the moment
 
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