Southwest?

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Amorty99

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South West?

Hello guys, masters, i'd like to ask about this cue ebony with points. Is this Southwest cue? since the serial number on the pin joint is missing so i don't know how to recognize this cue. Thank you guys for any comments.
 

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Several things on the cue are pointing me to no, but pull the bumper and take a picture and you should be able to get confirmation. The ring work from the pictures looks sloppy so hopefully it is the picture and not the cue.
 
Looks pretty good with the limitations of these pics, but yes, more detailed pics of pin, top of pin, and bumper/under bumper areas to confirm. Would also be nice to see the joint collars on the shafts, as well as the thread holes. With all that, should have what's needed....
 
Looks good

Looks like a predate cue. They didn't start numbering until like 93. I think in 92 they started with the cactus logo then the numbering system in 93

If it is a predate, it is worth more since it was made jwhile Franklin was still alive

You can get them to authenticate the cue if you send it to them
 
I have seen different variations of this cue done by j&j over the years, here is a pic of one version..............not saying it is not a South West just showing similer cues........
 

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Thank you guys for all review. Yes, this cue, according to the owner had a serial number on the pin. But i don't know precisely how it removed from the pin. I'll try to post the detail picture of the pin and bumper area and also inside bumper. It is looks like kaiser series, but the ring work is kind of different.
 
okey PoolBum thanks for the info, i just follow how indyq.com write it down..southwest instead of south west...:smile:
 
Hi, not sure if you can remove the serial no. On the pin because it is engraved on the pin. Here's an example
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A cactus logo, your cue serial and year of the cue is engraved for cues from 1993 onwards.
 
Hello L.C.Hui, thanks for the comment. that's why i got confused, kind of difficult to erase or remove the serial since it's engraved. but according to the owner, it was, by accident, erased.
 
The "accidental" removal of the pin is pretty suspect to me. I would think the only way to remove it would be to change the pin, and why would you possibly have any reason to do that and not retain the original or have South West do it?
 
Clearly you could turn down the end of the pin, it need not be changed out to remove the info.....but accidental?

Maybe a cue repairman of ill repute that really didn't care or know what he was doing or the value of it could screw it up.....on another planet......in an alternate universe.....

An accident?

If it's a South West I am all for proving it.........but an accident?

I can't help ID a Southwest without the engraving, I really wish you the best on this one. I have no idea except to say the "accidental" removal sounds odd....at best.....
 
brandoncook26; i really don't know, just a friend ask for favour to submit this and get comments and reviews about the cue. yeah i believe nobody wants to erase the only way, if i can say, to recognize if its south west or not. could be a trick to sell cheap cue with high price, or it could be not. coz sometimes, imho, you get an old cue and you have no idea what you got.
 
Chopdoc; yes, i believe the repair man is the one who should blame for this, accidental removal of the serial on the pin...hehehehe...just help a friend to get comments and reviews bout his cue, that's all. thanks.
 
If it really is a South West, and somehow the numbers were "erased" there would have to be a rough surface on the pin I would think. On another note, like at least one other person said, it could also have a cactus on the top of the pin that would id it as a South West.
 
If the top of the pin was turned down "accidentally" I think it will look quite obvious IMO. So I think more detailed pictures like what cueaddicts suggested would be good.
 
If the seller remembers the year and pin number, then South West may be able to pull up the build order.

As the buyer, if you want to confirm its a South West then send it to Laurie Franklin to authenticate.
 
Amorty99 said:
Thank you guys for all review. Yes, this cue, according to the owner had a serial number on the pin. But i don't know precisely how it removed from the pin. I'll try to post the detail picture of the pin and bumper area and also inside bumper. It is looks like kaiser series, but the ring work is kind of different.
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Well I find that odd. The pin # is the one way SW cues are identified. Why would anyone take it off, or if the pin was replaced(and I couldn't see why) would anyone go to anyone other than SW???? There might be a tell in this however. The wrap falls short of the butt and prongs by about the thickness of a veneer. That ain't no accident, it's done on purpose. So the question is, did SW ever do that,,,,,and who does.

If SW has never done that to their wrap, it's not an SW. A maker doesn't just up and decide to change how they wrap a cue.
 
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