SS Joint vs Ivory Joint

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I have a question for any cue makers who might read my thread.

If a Schon cue weighs 20.9 ozs with it's standard SS joint and a cue maker changed the joint from SS to ivory how much will it lower the cues weight?

About how much would changing a SS joint to an ivory joint cost?

Thanks,
James
 
Put both on a gram scale to find out. I think Dzcues has a ferrule wieghtby type not sure about joints. Do a search I remember a few talks about wieght of ferrulles and maybe a few on joints about 6+ months ago.

Atlas has the 2 wieghted for shipping atleast it's a start @.

thick wall S.S............0.102
thin wall S.S.............0.065
solid Ivory................0.48
 
I did this a couple of times with a sleeved ivory joint, the total difference was about .6 less when finished, Schon joints weigh a little less than the scale at Atlas.
 
n10spool said:
Put both on a gram scale to find out. I think Dzcues has a ferrule wieghtby type not sure about joints. Do a search I remember a few talks about wieght of ferrulles and maybe a few on joints about 6+ months ago.

Atlas has the 2 wieghted for shipping atleast it's a start @.

thick wall S.S............0.102
thin wall S.S.............0.065
solid Ivory................0.48
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There's something very confusing about the numbers given. The closest I can determine (from what's given) is that they represent portions of a pound. If that's correct then the stainless collars are close but now the ivory weighs more than 4 times what the stl. does.

A thick wall stainless collar weighs approx. 1 1/4oz, the thin wall about 1/2 of that, but the numbers given for the ivory, using the same scale indicates that the ivory weighs close to 1/2 lb. Either two different scales are being used or someone put a decimal point in the wrong place.
 
I've heard that you can save an ounce by switching the SS joint to an Ivory joint. The Ivory has to be a lot lighter than a hunk of steel, but thanks to Mike Webb's input it only saved .6 ounce on the cues he did the modification on.

James
 
ss vs ivory

I think there is a typo. Ivory =0.048 pounds not 0.48
Tom Gedris, Triple Cross Cues:cool:
 
SCCues said:
I've heard that you can save an ounce by switching the SS joint to an Ivory joint. The Ivory has to be a lot lighter than a hunk of steel, but thanks to Mike Webb's input it only saved .6 ounce on the cues he did the modification on.

James
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It depends on the cue, Schon joints are different. If I remember correctly, there stainless joint weighed .9, I have some tapered finished joints I bought that weigh much more.
 
KJ Cues said:
There's something very confusing about the numbers given. The closest I can determine (from what's given) is that they represent portions of a pound. If that's correct then the stainless collars are close but now the ivory weighs more than 4 times what the stl. does.

A thick wall stainless collar weighs approx. 1 1/4oz, the thin wall about 1/2 of that, but the numbers given for the ivory, using the same scale indicates that the ivory weighs close to 1/2 lb. Either two different scales are being used or someone put a decimal point in the wrong place.
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I couldnt find any info except at Atlas and yes those are shipping wieghts by pound I figured its a starting point even if its a bad start.
 
SCCues said:
I have a question for any cue makers who might read my thread.

If a Schon cue weighs 20.9 ozs with it's standard SS joint and a cue maker changed the joint from SS to ivory how much will it lower the cues weight?

About how much would changing a SS joint to an ivory joint cost?

Thanks,
James
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I'VE HAD THIS DONE TWICE.... ONE SHAVED .5 OUNCE, THE OTHER .7 OUNCE. SO I'D SAY MIKE'S .6 OUNCE IS RIGHT ON THE MONEY.

WHAT YOU NEED TO REMEMBER THOUGH IS, IF YOU TAKE .6 OUNCE FROM THE MIDDLE OF THE CUE, I'D TAKE ABOUT .3 FROM THE BUTT (WEIGHT BOLT) TO KEEP THE BALANCE RIGHT.
 
FAST_N_LOOSE said:
I'VE HAD THIS DONE TWICE.... ONE SHAVED .5 OUNCE, THE OTHER .7 OUNCE. SO I'D SAY MIKE'S .6 OUNCE IS RIGHT ON THE MONEY.

WHAT YOU NEED TO REMEMBER THOUGH IS, IF YOU TAKE .6 OUNCE FROM THE MIDDLE OF THE CUE, I'D TAKE ABOUT .3 FROM THE BUTT (WEIGHT BOLT) TO KEEP THE BALANCE RIGHT.
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right on.

i weighted a oversized ss joint and it was 1.4 oz so im estimating in the 1oz neighborhood. thin walled stainless weighed in at .4 or 4/10 of an ounce. i dont have any ivory right now but im 99.9% sure the weight sig. less then SS.

on the other hand. my skip has an ivory joint no weight bolt just an aluminum screw to hold on buttcap and the butt weight is 15.7 oz. @ 29.5in.
 
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