Stan Shuffett youtube videos

[One Pocket John]

I feel another video coming up soon, all about sweep. :wink:

Same here, on a left sweep it feels like my left shoulder is turning more to the right, maybe, leading is a better word to use.

Thanks

John

 

[stan shuffett]

Thanks for the reply, Stan. I do have a question though.

In the cut to the side, you say it's an inside/left sweep. After discussion with another user and giving it much thought myself, wouldn't it be an outside sweep?

The reason I'm saying it's an outside sweep is because with a manual pivot, we would start a 1/2 tip left of center, and then move to the right. So the movement for a Pro One sweep would be the same, except visually. Therefore, our eyes are moving to the right, or outside the CTEL. Does that make sense?

So

Right Sweep is a visual sweep to the left of the CTEL, since we are sweeping from the right to the left. Movement is caused by moving almost straight into CCB

The left sweep is a movement from left to right, and aided by rotating the bridge arm shoulder.

The cut to the side is manually left to right, INSIDE. So it is described as left and inside as it thins the shot.

The sweep means the eyes move directly left to the shot line.

The cut is to the left. The manual is LEFT to right, referred to always as a left pivot.
The sweep has the eyes moving to to the left or INSIDE in the same direction as the cut.

It has ALWAYS been that way.

Stan Shuffett

 

[stan shuffett]

I feel another video coming up soon, all about sweep. :wink:

Same here, on a left sweep it feels like my left shoulder is turning more to the right, maybe, leading is a better word to use.

Thanks

John

CTE is a visual system.

For the left sweep, the initial movement for a right handed player with the left shoulder will pull the head/eyes to the shooter's left, to the shot line.

If you were to keep rotating your left shoulder it would become left to right. But this is about the eyes. The eyes MUST move to the left or the inside for thinning up the side pocket cut. The visuals of A and CTE for that shot are THICK to the pocket. A thinning for that shot must occur. THIN IS IN. The eyes/head move to the INSIDE in the same direction as the cut.

Now, if the OB were a little to the LEFT, the A with CTE might visually appear as too thin, therefore the shot would need to be thickened with an outside sweep, meaning the pivot must be right to left and the sweep would be right....the eyes/head go right.


Hope this helps,

Stan Shuffett

 

[BeiberLvr]

CTE is a visual system.

For the left sweep, the initial movement for a right handed player with the left shoulder will pull the head/eyes to the shooter's left, to the shot line.

If you were to keep rotating your left shoulder it would become left to right. But this is about the eyes. The eyes MUST move to the left or the inside for thinning up the side pocket cut. The visuals of A and CTE for that shot are THICK to the pocket. A thinning for that shot must occur. THIN IS IN. The eyes/head move to the INSIDE in the same direction as the cut.

Now, if the OB were a little to the LEFT, the A with CTE might visually appear as too thin, therefore the shot would need to be thickened with an outside sweep, meaning the pivot must be right to left and the sweep would be right....the eyes/head go right.


Hope this helps,

Stan Shuffett

Okay, I think I'm understanding what you're saying a little better now.

For a left sweep, there's really two small movements that make up one movement. First our eyes go to the left of the CTEL, and THEN we rotate the shoulder slightly until we arrive at CCB.

Is that right?

 

[stan shuffett]

Okay, I think I'm understanding what you're saying a little better now.

For a left sweep, there's really two small movements that make up one movement. First our eyes go to the left of the CTEL, and THEN we rotate the shoulder slightly until we arrive at CCB.

Is that right?

In Pro1, the need for a manual pivot is eliminated. Why? Because the eyes sweep left in one fluid motion to the shot line.

In manual pivoting for the left inside....the eyes move directly straight in to a 1/2 tip left to right pivot.....taking the shooter to the shot line in a step by step manner.

The Pro1 movements are the professional way: SEE and SHOOT. What is critical in CTE is to start with the correct visuals. If one can do that all shots are essentially the same.

Stan Shuffett

 

[mohrt]

In the cut to the side, you say it's an inside/left sweep. After discussion with another user and giving it much thought myself, wouldn't it be an outside sweep?

Just look at the shot pre-pivot. If you shot with no pivot, does it need thickened or thinned? It should be pretty obvious.

 

[One Pocket John]

Just look at the shot pre-pivot. If you shot with no pivot, does it need thickened or thinned? It should be pretty obvious.

Now this makes sense. I can relate to that statement.

One of the hardest things to do is to use the written word to explain this stuff. It can be misinterpreted or just not understood by a newcomer as myself.

I have read everything that Stan has written about CTE and I wasn't able to grasp the concept until I saw the videos attached in this thread.

Thanks Monte, a little common sense goes a long ways.

John

 

[stan shuffett]

Now this makes sense. I can relate to that statement.

One of the hardest things to do is to use the written word to explain this stuff. It can be misinterpreted or just not understood by a newcomer as myself.

I have read everything that Stan has written about CTE and I wasn't able to grasp the concept until I saw the videos attached in this thread.

Thanks Monte, a little common sense goes a long ways.

John

Thanks for the prompt.

I will bow out from communicating on AZ.

Perhaps I should reconsider my book project as well.

Stan Shuffettl

 

[One Pocket John]

I went back and started watching all the videos for the third time.

Since Stan has been doing this for such a long time he doesn't take into consideration that those of us out here have never seen this before do not follow what he is demonstrating.

What I think would go a long way to help is a video like "CTE for Dummies"

JMHO

I like it though, its a system and systems are a good thing.

Thanks for all that you contribute Stan.......and Monte.

John

 

[mohrt]

I went back and started watching all the videos for the third time.

Since Stan has been doing this for such a long time he doesn't take into consideration that those of us out here have never seen this before do not follow what he is demonstrating.

What I think would go a long way to help is a video like "CTE for Dummies"

JMHO

I like it though, its a system and systems are a good thing.

Thanks for all that you contribute Stan.......and Monte.

John

CTE is not hard, it's just different. The information Stan puts out is complete and correct, there is no arguing that. There isn't anything I've said that Stan hasn't already covered many times.

 

[JB Cases]

CTE is not hard, it's just different. The information Stan puts out is complete and correct, there is no arguing that. There isn't anything I've said that Stan hasn't already covered many times.

I slightly disagree. The framework of CTE is difficult for people to comprehend when their entire pool playing life has been ghost ball and feel. In my experience some people get it right away and others really do struggle with it.

Stan puts new terminology out there and new concepts. In the videos I have done I STILL get comments where people say "all shots can't be made with a half-ball hit". Some people can't step back and let themselves absorb all this with new perspective. They are caught in between the old textbook way to aim and the new way and not able to completely let go and trust it.

Thus CTE can be difficult for them. Once you do let go and start using it as directed then it becomes easy. And even easier once you invest the practice time to train your visual alignment. When a player starts investing part of his million balls into seeing the shot the right way objectively a whole other world opens up.

 

[One Pocket John]

I watched this video again. Now I see what is happening with the feet for the left sweep. This clears up one issue I was having.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KwI_62Npos

John

 

[One Pocket John]

I slightly disagree. The framework of CTE is difficult for people to comprehend when their entire pool playing life has been ghost ball and feel. In my experience some people get it right away and others really do struggle with it.

Stan puts new terminology out there and new concepts. In the videos I have done I STILL get comments where people say "all shots can't be made with a half-ball hit". Some people can't step back and let themselves absorb all this with new perspective. They are caught in between the old textbook way to aim and the new way and not able to completely let go and trust it.

Thus CTE can be difficult for them. Once you do let go and start using it as directed then it becomes easy. And even easier once you invest the practice time to train your visual alignment. When a player starts investing part of his million balls into seeing the shot the right way objectively a whole other world opens up.

Thanks John for posting your comments.

I have always been a back of the ball stick aiming player. Anything to make this game less complicated is always appreciated.

I have been experimenting with CTE for like the last 3 days. The questions I may ask might seem really retarded but I need to put some kind of logic behind what I'm trying to learn.

I'm real sorry that Stan has decided not to post on AZB any more. I was hoping to get the sweep cleared up.

I've been playing since 1963 and always enjoy new concepts.

Have a good day. I enjoy your videos, keep them coming.

John :smile:

 

[JB Cases]

Thanks John for posting your comments.

I have always been a back of the ball stick aiming player. Anything to make this game less complicated is always appreciated.

I have been experimenting with CTE for like the last 3 days. The questions I may ask might seem really retarded but I need to put some kind of logic behind what I'm trying to learn.

I'm real sorry that Stan has decided not to post on AZB any more. I was hoping to get the sweep cleared up.

I've been playing since 1963 and always enjoy new concepts.

Have a good day. I enjoy your videos, keep them coming.

John :smile:

I didn't realize Stan has decided to quit posting. In any event it's hard to fade constant criticism on this forum even if it's not intentional.

It's hard to learn CTE through snippets in posts. It takes focused effort at the table. In posts sometimes legitimately innocent questions can get twisted and come across as veiled attempts to deride or discredit the system.

I have found that the best way to learn this is to watch the videos very very very closely several times in a row and then take it to the table and REALLY focus on duplicating the steps and understanding the motions. Not saying that I have it completely down either but I feel very good about where I am with it at the moment.

If you notice I ask very few technical questions on the forum. I reserve those for private message when I can't figure it out on my own from the information presented.

It's just easier to work it out privately than through public conversation in my view.

 

[One Pocket John]

CTE is not hard, it's just different. The information Stan puts out is complete and correct, there is no arguing that. There isn't anything I've said that Stan hasn't already covered many times.

Monte,

I never have implied nor suggested that CTE was hard or that the information that Stan puts out is incomplete or incorrect and yes, it is different, but cool.

I'm new at learning this concept and have questions or clarifications that I'm asking.

Those of you that have been using CTE for a long time have no problem with the terminology that Stan uses when demonstrating CTE, I do, I have never heard that terminology before, its new to me, but I want to learn. So, give a new guy a break will ya.

Like I stated before in a previous post, I have read everything Stan has posted, but it wasn't until I saw the videos that you posted that really grabbed my attention. Thanks

John

 

[One Pocket John]

I didn't realize Stan has decided to quit posting. In any event it's hard to fade constant criticism on this forum even if it's not intentional.

It's hard to learn CTE through snippets in posts. It takes focused effort at the table. In posts sometimes legitimately innocent questions can get twisted and come across as veiled attempts to deride or discredit the system.

I have found that the best way to learn this is to watch the videos very very very closely several times in a row and then take it to the table and REALLY focus on duplicating the steps and understanding the motions. Not saying that I have it completely down either but I feel very good about where I am with it at the moment.

If you notice I ask very few technical questions on the forum. I reserve those for private message when I can't figure it out on my own from the information presented.

It's just easier to work it out privately than through public conversation in my view.

AH, okay John, thanks for the advise.

Later

John

 

[One Pocket John]

Thanks for the prompt.

I will bow out from communicating on AZ.

Perhaps I should reconsider my book project as well.

Stan Shuffettl

Here's the post JB

John

 

[JB Cases]

Monte,

I never have implied nor suggested that CTE was hard or that the information that Stan puts out is incomplete or incorrect and yes, it is different, but cool.

I'm new at learning this concept and have questions or clarifications that I'm asking.

Those of you that have been using CTE for a long time have no problem with the terminology that Stan uses when demonstrating CTE, I do, I have never heard that terminology before, its new to me, but I want to learn. So, give a new guy a break will ya.

Like I stated before in a previous post, I have read everything Stan has posted, but it wasn't until I saw the videos that you posted that really grabbed my attention. Thanks

John

I agree with this. To me it was when Stan and Gerry and Monte started posting their videos that this all really came together undeniably.

Not much beats visual proof.

Everyone knows what fire is and respects the power of fire. Try to describe fire though. When you see it you know it and the destructive impact is clear. Fire burns.

But until you experience fire you can't ever really know just how bad it can be.

The same goes for CTE. We can write a million words and you can't really get how powerful it is. Visual demonstration shows that it works. It not only shows that CTE works it gives you important clues as to how to learn it and duplicate what you see.

Yes the terminology is different. The whole concept is different than what's been preached in the pool textbooks for a hundred years. What is a pivot, center to what edge? Edge to A? What's A. And a lot of the terms used are used in the context of speaking to people who are students of the method. I understand ABC because I have Stan's video and I have been immersed in this for years now.

I can understand how someone else who is new to it would be confused. A lot has been written that is confusing. Not only have you had the proponents all giving their opinions of how and why it works you have the teachers trying their best to give what they feel are accurate answers you have the naysayers trying to discredit it at every turn and strangely enough you even now have system users arguing the finer points between systems.

If I were a newbie to the concept of aiming systems then I might just pick Ghost Ball and be done with it because of the simplicity of Ghost Ball. That would be a huge mistake though in my opinion.

Anyway, don't give up. This stuff is the nuts, it really is.

 

[JB Cases]

CTE is a visual system.

For the left sweep, the initial movement for a right handed player with the left shoulder will pull the head/eyes to the shooter's left, to the shot line.

If you were to keep rotating your left shoulder it would become left to right. But this is about the eyes. The eyes MUST move to the left or the inside for thinning up the side pocket cut. The visuals of A and CTE for that shot are THICK to the pocket. A thinning for that shot must occur. THIN IS IN. The eyes/head move to the INSIDE in the same direction as the cut.

Now, if the OB were a little to the LEFT, the A with CTE might visually appear as too thin, therefore the shot would need to be thickened with an outside sweep, meaning the pivot must be right to left and the sweep would be right....the eyes/head go right.


Hope this helps,

Stan Shuffett

Thanks! It helps me.

 

[Ratta]

Thanks for the prompt.

I will bow out from communicating on AZ.

Perhaps I should reconsider my book project as well.

Stan Shuffettl

I honestly hope not. Every posting from you is appreciated Stan.
Keep up with the good work. Would be a shame if another nice guy, a great ambassador of the game and great instructor would quit caused by the typical cyber-war.
Hope you have been just in a *bad feel situation*