Stance and posture issues

IMO Gene has information absolutely crucial to consistency,
Putting thought in eye placement is very valuable .
I was never aware of it until Gene opened my eyes.
 
IMO Gene has information absolutely crucial to consistency,
Putting thought in eye placement is very valuable .
I was never aware of it until Gene opened my eyes.

Petey, I've read your post several times now and I'm not quite sure of its purpose. It seems to me you're just running interferrance. Since you've always lauded "Perfect Aim" please share your knowledge and answer the simple question I've been asking for over a year:

If you center the cue beneath your eyes, are your eyes then within 1/8 inch of that "perfect" spot Gene refers to?

I believe answering this question will say something, unlike your above post. JMHO I'm not trying to be offensive, just trying to get to some meat. TIA
 
Stay down on your shot, it is part of your follow through (and think of it that way). Jumping up is like poking the ball and expecting a stroked shot.
 
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Petey, I've read your post several times now and I'm not quite sure of its purpose. It seems to me you're just running interferrance. Since you've always lauded "Perfect Aim" please share your knowledge and answer the simple question I've been asking for over a year:

If you center the cue beneath your eyes, are your eyes then within 1/8 inch of that "perfect" spot Gene refers to?

I believe answering this question will say something, unlike your above post. JMHO I'm not trying to be offensive, just trying to get to some meat. TIA

I dont want to detour this thread but.... No
You can pm me and I will try to help, I dont want to be disrespectful about thread jumping
 
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I fixed much of this problem through practice in which I required myself to see the CB hit the OB before anything moved. I reasoned that if I do not see the hit how can I know what I did wrong? This helped.

With a great deal of attention to seeing the CB roll down the intended line and then seeing it hit the OB I pretty much overcame the standing up problem during execution.

When I get nervous and or want get that perfect position I still have a tendency to pick up my head. I think it is a natural tendency that has to be over come. I have reasoned that I can’t do anything about the position once the shot has been made and I will see the results later. However, this type of reasoning doesn’t help fix that problem.

If I don’t see the CB hit the rail and the resulting spin how will I know if I did it “right.”
It is a difficult problem that requires continuing attention.

My temporary working solution is to at least see the hit as I continue to learn about CB control. It seems that breaking the standing up problem into two parts has been of use as I seldom stand up during the shot – after the shot, well that is a different story.
 
Hello all. Long time reader first time poster. I was told that I don't get down on the ball enough in my stance. On top of that I always seem to pop my head up before completing my stroke. Any suggestions on how to break the habit?

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Welcome aboard.


I don't have a cure. It seems all of us jump up to varying degrees, usually at the most inopportune time. For me, usually it happens when I have not committed to the shot, and am not confident of the shot selection. Or, the shot is very crucial, and I'm feeling nervous.

On a Jimmy Reid tape that I recently viewed, 'No Time for Negative', he advises, visualizing all elements of the shot: aiming, contact point, english, speed, shape, etc while standing-all the decisions having been made, drop down on the shot, take a few confirming practice strokes, slight pause, then shoot.

He advocates-stay down after the shot-and count: one thousand one, one thousand two, one thousand three before moving. This is to allow you to see and evaluate the accuracy of the stroke in delivering the cb to the aimed part of the ob, the travel of the ob to the pocket, and the travel path of the cb for shape. All this assumes that you can stay down that long without being in the way of moving balls after the shot is made.

Jumping up comes in several forms. Some excellent players seem to have a consistent slow rise on the last stroke, rather than an abrupt pop up. Works for them.

Then there is the exaggerated "jump away" jump up. Where the player seems convinced that the ob will explode like a grenade-so he has to get out of there very quickly. A buddy of mine had this problem. We had some luck with having him close his eyes on the last stroke and listen for the results. Now, he does the 'slow rise'-this might be as good as it gets.

Welcome and Take Care.
 
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There are three ways I know of to improve "getting down" on a shot:

a) Bend at the waist. Pros do it, but you don't see many people over 50 doing it.

b) Spread your feet wider ... but be careful, as this can really increase the stress on your back

c) Bend your knees. Probably the best way, but assumes your knees are stronger than your back

One way to keep from jumping up, is to have more of your mass on the table. If you can rest your forearm on the table (or at least put firm pressure downward on your bridge hand) it makes you more stable and less likely to jump up.
 
Secret of stance? Here's the secret.

CHeck issues of inside pool mag 2010. There's ton of info there..:smile:
 
Thanks

Thanks guys. These replies have given me a lot to think about. Time to hit the table and work some more!
 
Hello all. Long time reader first time poster. I was told that I don't get down on the ball enough in my stance. On top of that I always seem to pop my head up before completing my stroke. Any suggestions on how to break the habit?

It's tough to analyze someone in the blind but here's something you can check: It's entirely possible that your bridge hand is moving along with your head. Try to focus on keeping your bridge hand down until the shot is completed. Maybe that will help keep your head down. Sometimes we connect body parts unconsciously.

Good luck.....
 
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