State Champions - Do we agree on status?

boogeyman said:
I agree on both counts stated within this thread:

TO OP

Residency requirements? Total b.s. This has nothing to do with the game itself.
So, (thinking on a larger scale) are you going to nullify all the championships (world, country, regional, state, etc.) that are won by non-residents?

This is a world sport, remember?
Requirement to adhere to local status before a player can claim said local tournament is just plain silly.

TO THIS POST

I agree when (specifically) state tourneys are promoted it is simply at their discretion to call it whatever they want. Enough said.
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Well, you're right, such as how things are done now. But, still, it's important that we recognize how far afield things are and how poorly organized the sport is. As mentione above, we desperately need a national governing body. With that in place, we can have unified standards for state championships. And yes, there would, by necessity, be residency requirements. Those champions would ultimately play for a unified national championship. With these types of titles available, and some organization behind it, we could see some collegiate programs involved. That would be a starting point for attracting out of industry sponsorship. The top national players could then graduate/compete in international events, without the burden of expenses.

This is how it "should" be. I have ideas on how we could get there. It is unlikely that it will ever happen.
 
BarTableMan said:
I believe that in order to be a true state champion:
You must win and be a current resident of that state and all players in the tournament must be residents as well. Thoughts...
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I agree but after reading through most of this I can see how it is easier said than done.
 
I feel the only way to unify things in our pool world, from the local room level, to colleges, to regional, state, and national level, is for a new entity to come in with millions and make an entirely new infrastructure. Just like the IPT was starting. Once you have that in place, all the existing non-unified events would either become irrelevant, or would become members of the new organization.

Unifying at the grass roots started probably a bunch of times and never went anywhere. The N.U.T.S system was supposed to unify all the regional tours 8 yrs ago or so and it came and went like everything else in our sport.
 
Wisconsin has a BCA state pool tournament and also a break away sanctioning body, WSPA. They both have singles 8 ball and team 8 ball. WSPA also has 9 ball and I think BCA may have 9 ball next year too. I really like our state tournament, but I am probably biased because I won BCA 8 ball singles back in March or April.
 
It just depends on the goal of the tournament. If they want to prove who is the best player in the state then only open it to residents of that state like they do in Missouri. But if a state event is like the US Open then it is just an open event that shows the region you are reigning over for the moment.
 
The VA STate 9 ball championships, run by Joshua Dickerson and now in it's 11th year, is open for residents of VA and the District of Columbia only. Proof of residency is required but for non-drivers that could be showing some other form of ID. These rules have been in effect since the first event and the winner of it gains paid entry into the US Open 9 Ball championships in Chesapeake VA.

Brian in VA
 
Lots of years ago, our team were the recipients of a really bad whooping via the "out of state teams can play" rule which had been implemented for the first time, and a loaded team from Louisville smashed us.

You do have a lot of places like Louisville, Chicago, Dayton, etc. who play in our state, and I'm not really for that. I'd prefer that you get to pick one, either you play on a team in your home state, or your permanent team is from that other state. You can't do both. Actually, I'd prefer you are a resident for 1 year or longer, and then you have a true champion.

It's bad when you have no idea who the team or individual winners because they come from an area which allows you to be from anywhere, but you just have to show up for the minimum number of weeks.
 
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