State of the AzB forums

azhousepro

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It has come to my attention recently that the forums are starting to get out of control. Users are stepping on other users and claims are being made. So I guess it is time to address these claims and bring things back under control.

A couple of users have been posting some things lately that other users would like to see these people banned for. I did ban one of them for 7 days in an effort to allow his controversy to cool down. I would like everyone to understand that the last thing I want to do is ban anyone from these forums. These forums have grown beyond what I ever thought they would and I am very proud of the broad spectrum of users on the forums. I try to make this a place that anyone can participate without the usual high school antics of name calling and crap that people like to do from the privacy of their basements.

Any time I do finally get fed up and ban someone, I get a flood of PMs either thanking me or questioning my decision. These PMs usually come from forum members that I consider friends and who I respect their opinions greatly. For me to ban someone, I usually have to see messages that are way over the line. Even then, I try to warn the person that they are getting out of control.

I have seen some questionable posts lately but not anything that I thought was bannable. On the other hand, I don't read every thread here. I read posts that interest me and posts that people send me PMs asking me to look at. On an average weekday, there are 600 posts made to the forums. I certainly don't have time to read each and every one.

On the subject of time, there have been claims recently that I am posting on my forums under a number of different aliases in order to stip up trouble. Even if I were the type of person to do something like this, I would like to know when I had the time to do so. For the past couple weeks I have been working on a major addition to the site. At the same time I have been busy with other jobs that I have.

Just to clear things up for everyone, AzB is not all that I do. (Boy, I wish) I am the webmaster for Luby Publishing. That means that I maintain the Billiards Digest site as well as the sites for the other mags they have. I also am partners in a consulting business (RMH Web Consulting) where I have my share of clients to take care of. I also run a local billiards newspaper (The Arizona Billiard News) which prints 28 pages once a month. Not to mention that I usually have 2 kids at home to deal with (haven't had them this summer though). With all of that, I am not sure when I am supposed to have the time to make up aliases and chat with myself on the forums using those aliases.

I have also heard claims from one of the regular users here (who I always considering as someone who had a good head on his shoulders and wanted to truly see the game move forward) that not only do I post this crap under different names but that he sent me a PM requesting that I ban one of the users because of a post they made. I double-checked my PMs and have not heard from this user in well over a month. So if he thinks he PMed me, he didn't. What is interesting though, is that this user got mad at me a few months ago because I banned someone he didn't think deserved to be banned. Now I guess he is not posting here because I didn't ban someone he thinks deserves to be banned.

As for what to do about this whole situation, I guess I need to "Put the I back into moderator" and start cleaning out some of the crap here. I really didn't want to have to start monitoring everything and hoped that we could all behave as adults. I guess every once in a while this sort of thing has to happen though.

I am also going to invite certain users to be part of a committee that will be in charge of deciding when and if someone needs to be banned. Please don't PM me asking to be part of the committee. I will send out notes to the people who I think should be part of it.

Mike
 
Congrats Mike! I agree 100%. Most of the posters here know whom the Disturbers are! Please do not pick me!!!! There are a lot of other Level Headed People here! Again, Thanks Mike!! :cool:
 
AzHousePro said:
I am also going to invite certain users to be part of a committee that will be in charge of deciding when and if someone needs to be banned. Please don't PM me asking to be part of the committee. I will send out notes to the people who I think should be part of it.

Mike

Great idea Mike.

At least this way it won't be perceived as Mike bringing down the hatchet.
I know of two people I think would be great for this but respect that you will make good decisions on your own.

Regards,
Koop
 
AzHousePro said:
I am also going to invite certain users to be part of a committee that will be in charge of deciding when and if someone needs to be banned. Please don't PM me asking to be part of the committee. I will send out notes to the people who I think should be part of it.

Mike


I don't know if this is open for suggestion or nomination...but since he has been silent for such a long time now...has caused absolutely NO trouble...has served his time and has been rehabilitated into a functioning member of society....I'd like to nominate THE SILENCER.

(Oh damn...I think I just got slapped with 10 Vdemerits right off the bat)
(Smile Mike...it ain't all that bad) :D
 
I agree with you on almost every point except one.That one being that you should not have to get on your own site and defend yourself.I dont know maybe you are more tolerant then me but if I was running this site and someone started telling me this and that,that person would be gone without any explanation.
"Its your site" do any thing you want to do.I cant believe people have the nerve to tell you how to run it.Let those start their own site.
Just my 02.cents worth.
Bob
 
Best news I've heard on here in a while. Thank you Mike! I think your position on how and when you ban people is right on target. When you finally did ban someone, I thought it was very appropriate. You've always seemed to me to go the extra mile before you made that tough decision.
 
Come on DM, you can do better than that! Put your name in the box & I will vote for you. We got to do Somthing! :)
drivermaker said:
I don't know if this is open for suggestion or nomination...but since he has been silent for such a long time now...has caused absolutely NO trouble...has served his time and has been rehabilitated into a functioning member of society....I'd like to nominate THE SILENCER.

(Oh damn...I think I just got slapped with 10 Vdemerits right off the bat)
(Smile Mike...it ain't all that bad) :D
 
cut shot said:
Come on DM, you can do better than that! Put your name in the box & I will vote for you. We got to do Somthing! :)


Nah...I enjoy running from the law rather than being the law. ;) :D Besides, I'm too corrupt and would be susceptible to bribes.
 
Darn ...

Do have to reintroduce yourself to your kids once
and awhile, and tell them again what the definition
of a Father is?

You sound extemely busy, and I can appreciate what
all you are doing because my normal occupation is
Information Technology, and I have also published
a billiards newsletter for this area, and I know the
hard work it takes to do that.

I think you do a good job, and the forums are good
for the most part.

I know you aren't trying to get 'attaboys', just explain
to members the responsibilities you have. As far as
I am concerned you have always shown good
judgment in running the website. And Thank you
for all your hard work and concerns.
 
drivermaker said:
Hey Sweet Cheeks...better nominate someone you own and have in your hip pocket. It could be YOU going next at the rate you trash it at times.

I don't "own" anyone :p And I don't trash anyone, either :)
 
Sweet Marissa said:
I don't "own" anyone :p And I don't trash anyone, either :)


I beg to differ about the "owning" part. And where was the word "anyone" in my post.
(Mawissa, never did do well in reading comprehension during her school years)
 
Cean House Mike! Go Go Go! Whomever you choose myself and others will back you! A panel of Level Headed persons is the best choice in my opinion! About 7-14 people with a clean posting record. We need to get rid of the Trolls! :cool:
 
Mike has the patients of a saint. He is a great father and has been a good friend. He never flies off the handle, it's not his nature and he always gives someone the benefit of the doubt.

There was a recent occasion where I did something (not telling) non forum related. I called him and was going bonkers on the phone. He in his calm soft voice, managed to settle me down, talked it out with me and it all really worked out just the way he said it would. I respect and appreciate his judgment!

He is a fair man, always has been , always will be.

Chucklez is Mikes friend and watches the forums while Mike is away. He is a great guy and also a good friend!
 
AzHousePro said:
On the subject of time, there have been claims recently that I am posting on my forums under a number of different aliases in order to stip up trouble. Even if I were the type of person to do something like this, I would like to know when I had the time to do so. For the past couple weeks I have been working on a major addition to the site.

Mike


Mike,

I hope you don't mean my speculation about the real Billy Jay.....that was just joking around. :(
What is the major site addition?
BTW- Could we have an easier to find link to player Q&A?

Terry
 
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