State Open Tournaments?

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How might you feel about state regional opens that feed state championship invitationals, with entry fees split between regional and championship tournaments?

For example, a $200 entry fee grants you entry to one of the four regional tournaments (North, South, East, or West) in your state, each limited to 64 players. The top 8 players from each regional advance, entry fee free, to your state's championship, featuring 32 players.

Half of the entry fee ($100) goes into the regional tournament's prize pool, along with any additional funds. The remaining $100 contributes to the state championship's prize pool, making it the fifth and final tournament of the season. For instance, with 64 entrants in each regional, there would be $6,400 in cash prizes for each of the four regionals, and $25,600 put aside for the state championship.

In addition to the cash prizes, there would be sizable and attractive trophies for the top places in the state championship.

Our group is considering adding sponsorship money to state regionals/championships. We are evaluating different race and elimination formats and considering limiting entrants by Fargo rating, or charging higher entry fees for higher-rated Fargo players.

What are your thoughts on this format?

Thank you!
 
RafaReyes said:
The over abundance of handicapped events is killing open events participation.

Handicapped events are promoting "sandbagging" and not providing motivation to lower skill players to enter open events cause "competition is more difficult".

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Agreed, which is why it was suggested that higher-rated players pay more for their entry fees. Also, why some intriguing options to limit the "pro effect" (knocked out in two rounds by drawing two pros) are under discussion (like round robins).

It is also being discussed whether there will be a pro/amateur limit, like limiting the opens to Frago ratings of X.

I'm really trying to see how people feel about the entry fee payout structure, so let me know.

Thanks!
 
I like the idea.

Other ideas:
  • top finishers of state championships qualify for next year's without having to go through regionals again
  • top finishers in state would qualify for nationals?
  • state would not need to be free, if you ask me, but still, added money from regionals to state is nice
 
If you ask me, I think there would be a welcome to open events if a promoter were to put their time into advertising it and making sure that it is limited to 700 and below players.

I've ran open amateur straight pool tournaments and had good turnouts. there are some open rotation tournaments in NY and they fill up fast.
 
And btw, I forgot to mention that even though your idea is a good one, it would take a giant effort from multiple parties to have it work. If not, then someone would have to build it from scratch and hope they have a solid team and business plan in place and that's a gigantic undertaking.
 
Positively Ralf said:
And btw, I forgot to mention that even though your idea is a good one, it would take a giant effort from multiple parties to have it work. If not, then someone would have to build it from scratch and hope they have a solid team and business plan in place and that's a gigantic undertaking.
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Or, crazy idea, have some pool organization run it (looking at you, BCA!)
 
Not interested. Tournaments at the local, regional & state level where I am from are conducted just fine without any need for drastic change.
 
RafaReyes said:
The over abundance of handicapped events is killing open events participation.

Handicapped events are promoting "sandbagging" and not providing motivation to lower skill players to enter open events cause "competition is more difficult".

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Exactly right. I was told the Lucasi West Coast tour won't even be coming to the Phoenix area because they won't get enough participation. It's crazy to me that there are maybe 20-30 weekly tournaments in the area that have plenty of players, but the minute they have to play guys like Oscar, they're out. Tournaments like that are awesome experiences. I played every one of them I could find while I was coming up.
 
easy-e said:
Exactly right. I was told the Lucasi West Coast tour won't even be coming to the Phoenix area because they won't get enough participation. It's crazy to me that there are maybe 20-30 weekly tournaments in the area that have plenty of players, but the minute they have to play guys like Oscar, they're out. Tournaments like that are awesome experiences. I played every one of them I could find while I was coming up.
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the reason I mentioned the BCA was, that an "ideal" national player's organization, would be able/willing to put those open state events up, without the pressure of financial return or minimum numbers of participation. They could start and try to grow this as it goes. I am very sure there are enough players in 4 regions of each state to play in an open tournament. They don't need to be the same players who would only play handicapped events.
 
Positively Ralf said:
And btw, I forgot to mention that even though your idea is a good one, it would take a giant effort from multiple parties to have it work. If not, then someone would have to build it from scratch and hope they have a solid team and business plan in place and that's a gigantic undertaking.
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There are resources ready for several states, not all 50 states.
 
Open events are getting scarcer because people got tired of being dead-money cannon fodder for the top 5% of the field. There are more people playing tournament pool now than in the last 30yrs, maybe longer. Love it or hate it Fargo is the main reason. Also, 'sandbagging' a FR event is nearly impossible once a person has about 200robustness. The SB argument is way overblown.
 
garczar said:
Open events are getting scarcer because people got tired of being dead-money cannon fodder for the top 5% of the field. There are more people playing tournament pool now than in the last 30yrs, maybe longer. Love it or hate it Fargo is the main reason. Also, 'sandbagging' a FR event is nearly impossible once a person has about 200robustness. The SB argument is way overblown.
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on the other hand there are the ones who prefer open. In smaller numbers, sure. But if this is more about trophies, than the size of the pot. this might work and attract different players.
 
RafaReyes said:
The over abundance of handicapped events is killing open events participation.

Handicapped events are promoting "sandbagging" and not providing motivation to lower skill players to enter open events cause "competition is more difficult".

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Handicaps are killing tournaments in general
 
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