Stats -- Pagulayan vs. Bustamante 15-Ball Filipino Rotation Race to 15, May 2020

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Here are a few stats from the Alex Pagulayan vs. Francisco Bustamante 15-Ball Filipino Rotation race to 15 played May 1, 2020 at Ray Hansen's home in Texas. Pay-per-view live streaming was provided by PoolActionTV.

This was Day 1 of a best-3-out-of-5 Champions Challenge All-Around match, with a different discipline played each day for up to 5 days. Bustamante won the right to choose the discipline and the opening break for Day 1 and chose Rotation. Remote commentary (by phone) was provided by Larry Schwartz. Ray Hansen also commentated, from a room in his home separate from the pool room.

Bustamante jumped out to a 6-1 lead. Pagulayan brought it back to a tie at 12-12, but Bustamante then won the last 3 games, including breaking and running the final 2, for a 15-12 win.

Conditions -- The conditions for this set included:
  • - Diamond 9-foot table with standard pro-cut pockets and blue Simonis 860 HR cloth;
    - Aramith Tournament balls with a measles cue ball;
    - triangle rack;
    - winner breaks;
    - rack your own with the 1-, 2- and 3-balls on the corners;
    - first player to reach 60 points (not 61, to avoid the possibility of tied games) wins the game;
    - on a foul, the opponent can play the balls as they lie, spot the lowest-numbered ball and take ball in hand behind the head string, or pass the shot back;
    - a shot is legal as long as the lowest-numbered ball is the first one hit by the cue ball and a rail is hit either by the cue ball before the object ball is hit or by any ball after the object ball is hit;
    - jump cues not allowed; and
    - no shot clock.

■ Bustamante broke 15 times -- successful 10 times (resulting in 4 game wins and 6 losses), no fouls, and 5 dry (4 wins, 1 loss).

■ Pagulayan broke 12 times -- successful 7 times (resulting in 5 game wins and 2 losses), 2 fouls (both losses), and 3 dry (all losses).

Successful breaks (made at least one ball and did not foul):
  • Bustamante -- 10 of 15 (67%)
  • Pagulayan -- 7 of 12 (58%)
  • Total -- 17 of 27 (63%)

Breaker won game:
  • Bustamante -- 8 of 15 (53%)
  • Pagulayan -- 5 of 12 (42%)
  • Total -- 13 of 27 (48%)

Break-and-run games -- on all breaks:
  • Bustamante -- 2 of 15 (13%)
  • Pagulayan -- 2 of 12 (17%)
  • Total -- 4 of 27 (15%)

Break-and-run games -- on successful breaks (made at least one ball and did not foul):
  • Bustamante -- 2 of 10 (20%)
  • Pagulayan -- 2 of 7 (29%)
  • Total -- 4 of 17 (24%)

Break-and-run packages:
  • Bustamante's 2 B&R games were a 2-pack to end the set.
    Pagulayan's 2 B&R games were singles.

Games with 1 or more safeties -- 59% (16 of 27)

Average number of balls made on the break:
  • Bustamante -- 0.8 on all breaks, 1.2 on successful breaks
  • Pagulayan -- 1.0 on all breaks, 1.6 on successful breaks
  • Total -- 0.9 on all breaks, 1.4 on successful breaks

Number of innings -- 26% (7 of 27) of the games ended in one inning. 4 games ended on the breaker's first inning (B&R games), 3 games ended on the non-breaker's first inning, 5 games ended on the breaker's second inning, and 1 game ended on the non-breaker's second inning. 52% (14 of 27) of the games went beyond the non-breaker's second visit to the table, with the longest game ending on the non-breaker's 12th visit.

Match length -- Just over 4 hours, for an average of 8.9 minutes per game. This includes racking and timeouts.
 
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Here are a few stats from the Alex Pagulayan vs. Francisco Bustamante 15-Ball Filipino Rotation race to 15 played May 1, 2020 at Ray Hansen's home in Texas. Pay-per-view live streaming was provided by PoolActionTV.

This was Day 1 of a best-3-out-of-5 Champions Challenge All-Around match, with a different discipline played each day for up to 5 days. Bustamante won the right to choose the discipline and the opening break for Day 1 and chose Rotation. Remote commentary (by phone) was provided by Larry Schwartz. Ray Hansen also commentated, from a room in his home separate from the pool room.

Bustamante jumped out to a 6-1 lead. Pagulayan brought it back to a tie at 12-12, but Bustamante then won the last 3 games, including breaking and running the final 2, for a 15-12 win.

Conditions -- The conditions for this set included:
  • - Diamond 9-foot table with standard pro-cut pockets and blue Simonis cloth;
    - Aramith Tournament balls (I think) with a measles cue ball;
    - triangle rack;
    - winner breaks;
    - rack your own with the 1-, 2- and 3-balls on the corners;
    - first player to reach 60 points (not 61, to avoid the possibility of tied games) wins the game;
    - on a foul, the opponent can play the balls as they lie, spot the lowest-numbered ball and take ball in hand behind the head string, or pass the shot back;
    - a shot is legal as long as the lowest-numbered ball is the first one hit by the cue ball and a rail is hit either by the cue ball before the object ball is hit or by any ball after the object ball is hit;
    - jump cues not allowed; and
    - no shot clock.

■ Bustamante broke 15 times -- successful 10 times (resulting in 4 game wins and 6 losses), no fouls, and 5 dry (4 wins, 1 loss).

■ Pagulayan broke 12 times -- successful 7 times (resulting in 5 game wins and 2 losses), 2 fouls (both losses), and 3 dry (all losses).

Successful breaks (made at least one ball and did not foul):
  • Bustamante -- 10 of 15 (67%)
  • Pagulayan -- 7 of 12 (58%)
  • Total -- 17 of 27 (63%)

Breaker won game:
  • Bustamante -- 8 of 15 (53%)
  • Pagulayan -- 5 of 12 (42%)
  • Total -- 13 of 27 (48%)

Break-and-run games -- on all breaks:
  • Bustamante -- 2 of 15 (13%)
  • Pagulayan -- 2 of 12 (17%)
  • Total -- 4 of 27 (15%)

Break-and-run games -- on successful breaks (made at least one ball and did not foul):
  • Bustamante -- 2 of 10 (20%)
  • Pagulayan -- 2 of 7 (29%)
  • Total -- 4 of 17 (24%)

Break-and-run packages:
  • Bustamante's 2 B&R games were a 2-pack to end the set.
    Pagulayan's 2 B&R games were singles.

Games with 1 or more safeties -- 59% (16 of 27)

Average number of balls made on the break:
  • Bustamante -- 0.8 on all breaks, 1.2 on successful breaks
  • Pagulayan -- 1.0 on all breaks, 1.6 on successful breaks
  • Total -- 0.9 on all breaks, 1.4 on successful breaks

Number of innings -- 26% (7 of 27) of the games ended in one inning. 4 games ended on the breaker's first inning (B&R games), 3 games ended on the non-breaker's first inning, 5 games ended on the breaker's second inning, and 1 game ended on the non-breaker's second inning. 52% (14 of 27) of the games went beyond the non-breaker's second visit to the table, with the longest game ending on the non-breaker's 12th visit.

Match length -- Just over 4 hours, for an average of 8.9 minutes per game. This includes racking and timeouts.
Sweet.....

Thank you for taking the time to document these Statistics :clapping:
 
Sweet.....

Thank you for taking the time to document these Statistics :clapping:

Thanks, Terry. Given the rarity of seeing this game in the USA, I thought it would be interesting, and it was. For people who like rotation games (9-Ball, 10-Ball, etc.) but feel that pros should be playing more interactive games, 15-Ball Rotation certainly goes in that direction.
 
Average game score in Bustamante's 15 wins -- 66-14
Average game score in Pagulayan's 12 wins -- 66-18

Average score by Bustamante in all 27 games -- 45
Average score by Pagulayan in all 27 games -- 37
 
Thanks, Terry. Given the rarity of seeing this game in the USA, I thought it would be interesting, and it was. For people who like rotation games (9-Ball, 10-Ball, etc.) but feel that pros should be playing more interactive games, 15-Ball Rotation certainly goes in that direction.

Curious: Since we have almost no previous stats to compare, what is your opinion on the quality of play in this match?

I've heard stories about Efren in his prime, running 5 racks of rotation.
 
Curious: Since we have almost no previous stats to compare, what is your opinion on the quality of play in this match?

I've heard stories about Efren in his prime, running 5 racks of rotation.

The story I remember about Efren went something (emphasis on that word) like this:

  • Interviewer -- Efren, what's your high run in Rotation?
    Efren -- 4 games.
    Interviewer -- 4? I thought it would be quite a bit higher.
    Efren -- Well, we have to flip for break after each game in the Philippines.

As for the quality of play in this match, it was certainly rough in spots. No B&Rs until Game 14, and only 15% overall. Lots of missed shots -- about 3 dozen in 27 games, which is maybe 2 or 3 times as frequent (per game) as in many 9-Ball or 10-Ball events. Some of that is certainly to be expected with the extra balls making position play more difficult, leading to more difficult shots. The rules lead to many spot shots, and, surprisingly, they missed a few of those.

Alex apparently had not played the game in 20 years. But it was a fun set to watch, given the differences from 9- and 10-Ball. And even after watching it for 4 hours, I'm still not sure I understand all the rules!
 
• In 9 of the 27 games, the winner got out in one inning (i.e., had scored no points prior to that). As mentioned above, 4 of those games were run outs from the break. Of the other 5, Bustamante had 2 and Pagulayan had 3.

• The fewest balls pocketed to win a game was 3, which happened 3 times. I.e., no game-winning "outs" consisted of just 1 or 2 balls.

"Outs" by Bustamante in the 15 games he won -- number of balls made and number of points scored, separated by a slash. One-inning outs are indicated by a B&R or an asterisk:
  • 6/70*, 6/63, 9/54, 4/46, 4/42, 5/60*, 7/56, 9/63, 3/33, 3/30, 6/59, 10/65, 8/62, 11/66(B&R), 11/66(B&R)

"Outs" by Pagulayan in the 12 games he won:
  • 6/56, 10/61*, 7/48, 6/63*, 3/36, 10/67(B&R), 5/63, 11/71*, 4/52, 8/68, 4/49, 11/66(B&R)
 
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And even after watching it for 4 hours, I'm still not sure I understand all the rules!

I recall a few years ago I saw American Rotation games introduced at Derby City.
I watched a few matches, but spectators seemed to be few and far between.
I guess lack of interest killed it at the DCC.
Is American Rotation different from the Filipino version?

I've watched a few Filipino rotation matches online but I don't understand all the rules.
My guess is that the break becomes less important in 15-ball Rotation compared to 9-Ball or 10-Ball.
Do your stats bear this out?
 
I recall a few years ago I saw American Rotation games introduced at Derby City.
I watched a few matches, but spectators seemed to be few and far between.
I guess lack of interest killed it at the DCC.
Is American Rotation different from the Filipino version?

I've watched a few Filipino rotation matches online but I don't understand all the rules.
My guess is that the break becomes less important in 15-ball Rotation compared to 9-Ball or 10-Ball.
Do your stats bear this out?

Yes, American Rotation is quite different from Filiipino Rotation. Some of AmRo's rules:
  • Call pocket / call safe
    Each rack is worth 20 points: balls 1-10 count 1 point each; balls 11-15 count 2 points each
    A match is played to a certain number of points, such as 100 or 150
    6 of the balls (1, 2, 3, 13, 14, 15) are racked in a specified location
    Breaker has ball in hand anywhere on the table after the break
    After 3 consecutive fouls (breaking fouls excluded) by one player, the opponent has 2 consecutive balls in hand
    Alternate breaks
    Jumps allowed only with the playing cue

I agree that the break is less important in 15-Ball Rotation than in 9-Ball or 10-Ball, because Rotation is more interactive, i.e., more visits to the table on average.
 
Yes, American Rotation is quite different from Filiipino Rotation. Some of AmRo's rules:
  • Call pocket / call safe
    Each rack is worth 20 points: balls 1-10 count 1 point each; balls 11-15 count 2 points each
    A match is played to a certain number of points, such as 100 or 150
    6 of the balls (1, 2, 3, 13, 14, 15) are racked in a specified location
    Breaker has ball in hand anywhere on the table after the break
    After 3 consecutive fouls (breaking fouls excluded) by one player, the opponent has 2 consecutive balls in hand
    Alternate breaks
    Jumps allowed only with the playing cue

I agree that the break is less important in 15-Ball Rotation than in 9-Ball or 10-Ball, because Rotation is more interactive, i.e., more visits to the table on average.

I think the rules for American Rotation are a bit too complex.
That's probably why it hasn't caught on.
 
I was watching the loop on Alex vs Scott Frost 1-hole and noticed at one point Alex had 3 cues screwed together leaning on his chair. Anyone know why?
 
Did anyone get a clarification on what happened with Bustamante’s foul on the 2 ball in rack 22? I thought I had a grasp on the rules up until that point.
 
Did anyone get a clarification on what happened with Bustamante’s foul on the 2 ball in rack 22? I thought I had a grasp on the rules up until that point.

That's a mystery to me, too. He hit the 2-ball too slow to reach the pocket (or rail), but the cue ball definitely hit the rail to the left of the side pocket. I thought maybe he had touched something else or double hit the cue ball, but I saw no such foul.
 
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