STERLING WAVE vs JB BASIC RUGGED CUE CASE

Grilled Cheese said:
I really like what you are doing. I agree with everything in that video, your approach, your mindset and goals. I have owned all of the top cases out there. Yours are the best. A case is suppose to protect a cue, first and foremost. Bringing world-best cue protection to an affordable price point is yet another great thing you are doing.

JB, you will go down as the most important case maker of all time.

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Thank you. I just want to deliver something that I would be happy to spend my own money on. After having a cue get broken by falling out of a case I simply want that to be something that doesn't happen to me again and have made a career out of making sure it's not likely to happen to others who use our cases.

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I have to agree that the JB rugged case is the best case in that price point. I too got mine from Seyberts and they don't mention in the product description that the case has the ultra pad interior. Kind of silly in their part I think.

I left feedback on the 2/3 case on their site and the only negative was the black interior, my old eyes can't see the holes. But it really is the best case I've ever owned.
 
JB Cases said:
Yes we already do blue in two shades as an option and the lighter one is great at covering up the chalk.
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The lighter blue you showed in the video not only looked sharp, but was bright enough you could see into it very easily.
 
I have a sterling wave 3x4 in the tan/imitation croc. I love looks of it, not another one that is like mine in my area so easy to spot if it walks off ;)

Mine has enough room for 3 butts with jps and 4 shafts. Due to the rebound interior, I find if I don't have it full, the shafts slip upward. I store my cues joint down so I have to put my shafts in first. When there is a butt in there, it is challenging to find the hole as the shaft holes are further down than the butt walls are.

I have a telescopic bridge in the jump handle section, my 3 cue q claw, the head of the bridge, a hand towel and a satin cloth in the big pocket. In the small one I carry a q wiz, cuetec tip shape tool, a tube of predator chalk, my pocket chalker, a cloth bag with $20 in quarters a cue glove (which I haven't been able to use because it doesn't feel right) and the APA condensed rule book.

I would like to buy the JB rugged, my concern is space and the pockets. My wave has full open pockets, John's video shows "L" shaped pockets. Since I take a lot with me, I'd like to make sure it all fits well.

I will buy one regardless as two 3x4's should be enough for my humble collection and I can be set up grabbing either case.
 
desertshark said:
I have a sterling wave 3x4 in the tan/imitation croc. I love looks of it, not another one that is like mine in my area so easy to spot if it walks off ;)

Mine has enough room for 3 butts with jps and 4 shafts. Due to the rebound interior, I find if I don't have it full, the shafts slip upward. I store my cues joint down so I have to put my shafts in first. When there is a butt in there, it is challenging to find the hole as the shaft holes are further down than the butt walls are.

I have a telescopic bridge in the jump handle section, my 3 cue q claw, the head of the bridge, a hand towel and a satin cloth in the big pocket. In the small one I carry a q wiz, cuetec tip shape tool, a tube of predator chalk, my pocket chalker, a cloth bag with $20 in quarters a cue glove (which I haven't been able to use because it doesn't feel right) and the APA condensed rule book.

I would like to buy the JB rugged, my concern is space and the pockets. My wave has full open pockets, John's video shows "L" shaped pockets. Since I take a lot with me, I'd like to make sure it all fits well.

I will buy one regardless as two 3x4's should be enough for my humble collection and I can be set up grabbing either case.
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The Wave has larger pockets with easier access. However we can build you a custom Basic Rugged with pockets set up any way you choose.

www.jbcases.com/basicrugged.html
 
Do the Wave and/or the Rugged cases you are discussing comfortably fit a cue ball in an accessory pocket?
 
BRussell said:
Do the Wave and/or the Rugged cases you are discussing comfortably fit a cue ball in an accessory pocket?
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I have a 3x4 rugged and my cue ball fits nicely right on top of my joint protectors underneath the top lid. Cue ball doesn't move and the lid zips perfectly.
 
wontonny said:
Can these cases do pin up and tip up carry? As well as carry a cueball in the long pocket?
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A cueball will fit in the pockets on the Wave case. It will also fit on the Basic Rugged but will bulge in the center but won't stress the zipper.

You can load these cases with cues in any direction you prefer but I recommend you stick to opposing directions to insure maximum efficiency.

Here is my video on how to load the Basic Rugged cases.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIjvLGfsQOw
 
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Are there any Dealers in US that carry these in anything other than black on black??? I would like one but would prefer a different color interior at least. Outside color not real important but the Navy Blue and Charcoal Grey looks nice. Or if I got several people to order one at what point does the shipping cost become more efficient??? THNX!
 
ive ordered a basic rugged
i bought a sterling 4x8 with ultra pad interior thats got a ?nylon cover
for unfer $100
i cant find where i bought it...:banghead:
ill give my opinion after i get jbs case my opinion of the 3
wave/ plain/ jb rugged
 
sterling wave $129
http://www.seyberts.com/products/Black_/_Blue_Wave_4x8_Cue_Case-102170-10305.html
sterling hard case $104
http://www.cuesight.com/sth12k.html
jb basic rugged $120
http://www.seyberts.com/products/JB_Basic_Rugged_Black_4x8_Pool_Cue_Case-103663-10488.html
heres is my opinion
the jb case is classsy and definitely well made
the "j " zippers on the pockets are not as convenient to access to the contenets of the pockets as the wave (best) or basic sterling
the double straps of the wave give the most comfortable carrying
compared to a single strap
the sterling basic gives you the option of handle location on the side or inbetween the pockets

the padding in the jb case is deeper and being black like the others hard to find the holes
the others being closer to the top of the case although also black are easier to find the spaces
SO
all things being closer to equal
for me the best bang for the buck case is ............
THE STERLING WAVE
 
bbb said:
SO
all things being closer to equal
for me the best bang for the buck case is ............
THE STERLING WAVE
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Good call. I have three of them and like them a LOT.

FWIW, I DETEST the zippers being on the side of the pockets unless they open up all the way on 3-sides (i.e. Sterling Wave case). I traded off my very nice J Flowers case simply due to the pockets zipper configuration.

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Great thread and not just because it's about cases I am involved with. Great because I am learning a lot about what is useful and desirable to the people using our cases.

Couple things, the Wave Case pockets are my personal favorite. I put them on my personal leather case because they are roomy and easy to get to everything. That said not everyone likes them so we offer lots of other types. We can absolutely put Wave case style pockets on a Basic Rugged body if someone asks us to. As well we can make the zippers go anywhere the customer desires.

For the Sterling Basic or Classic case I can't take any credit for that design at all. I inherited the model because it's a Porper knockoff that all of the distributors carry in some form or another. My only contribution was to make it a little better by beefing up the stress points and switching the interior to our UltraPad style. But the way the pockets work, the strap on handle, the movable shoulder strap are all Joe Porper's design as far as I know. I was just tasked with putting a little JB-ness into it.

For the Wave cases I don't actually make them. The factory that does is down the road and I don't have anything to do with them any longer. So I hope that they continue to follow my instructions and it seems as if they are based on consumer reports. If I still had anything to do with them then I would probably try to add in a little of what we are doing for the Basic Rugged cases to make them a little stronger.

Anyway, great thread and thank you for all the input.
 
Not sure if I'm doing something wrong but my experience with this case is not so positive. I will say that once the cues are in the case there is no question about them being protected. My issue is that the space is just so tight while putting the cue in and taking it out. When loaded with 2x3 I had the hardest time getting the butts out. I also put a mark on my butt trying to wedge everything in this case. The black on black (already mentioned) didn't help.

I am currently looking at alternates. Does the wave offer a little more space to get equipment in and out.

Thanks.
 
dxn2 said:
Not sure if I'm doing something wrong but my experience with this case is not so positive. I will say that once the cues are in the case there is no question about them being protected. My issue is that the space is just so tight while putting the cue in and taking it out. When loaded with 2x3 I had the hardest time getting the butts out. I also put a mark on my butt trying to wedge everything in this case. The black on black (already mentioned) didn't help.

I am currently looking at alternates. Does the wave offer a little more space to get equipment in and out.

Thanks.
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Right there with you. I have one butt and 4 shafts in mine (rugged 2x3) and very tight.
Don't like that much at all.
JB, if your listening, quit making them so compact. The padding is perfect so a little roomier wouldn't hurt.
Side note: I have an earlier prototype 3x4/2x5 and it is perfect in every way. Everything slides in easily and is snug. Also noticed the shell used is firmer than the new rugged series. Cost reasoning?
 
I think you might be loading the wrong. I have several videos on how to load them.

The tubes are slightly less rigid than the one of the runs due to the composition. Nothing with cost. The more rigid ones can crack under pressure and the less rigid ones dont.
 
dxn2 said:
Not sure if I'm doing something wrong but my experience with this case is not so positive. I will say that once the cues are in the case there is no question about them being protected. My issue is that the space is just so tight while putting the cue in and taking it out. When loaded with 2x3 I had the hardest time getting the butts out. I also put a mark on my butt trying to wedge everything in this case. The black on black (already mentioned) didn't help.

I am currently looking at alternates. Does the wave offer a little more space to get equipment in and out.

Thanks.
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Centerpunch said:
Right there with you. I have one butt and 4 shafts in mine (rugged 2x3) and very tight.
Don't like that much at all.
JB, if your listening, quit making them so compact. The padding is perfect so a little roomier wouldn't hurt.
Side note: I have an earlier prototype 3x4/2x5 and it is perfect in every way. Everything slides in easily and is snug. Also noticed the shell used is firmer than the new rugged series. Cost reasoning?
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Here is a video I did on how to load the interior. I have not tried one butt and 4 shaft but I am sure it can fit without a problem. When I am back in the shop I will try it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIjvLGfsQOw
 
I have a 2x3 and find it perfect - light, protective and doesn't draw attention.

But 2 things I learned.

I have 2 butts 3 shafts in mine joints up and when loading the 3rd shaft needs to go last and take a shaft out first when unloading. Makes sense everything is so snug the fat part of the butt can't pass through when fully loaded. For those struggling picture the cues in the case like a puzzle.

As for the black interior. On my first loading it was difficult to find the holes. Once it gets some use the interior holds its shape so they are much easier to find.
 
John,

I watched the video, with tips up and pins down everything seems to work better, still far too tight in my opinion. I can not see the bottom of the shafts to know which one to pull. It might be a good idea to include instructions mandating the tip up joint down configuration. That was not obvious to me when I received the case, in fact it seemed logical to have tips down, might have saved me the ding.

Still

Don
 
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