Steve Davis Robbed!

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The point isn't that Europe didn't win the Mosconi Cup, or that Steve is down against Earl on a head to head count, but he has the abililty and skill to beat him, and beat him well. So why can't he do it again???

He has made an extreme comeback to beat Efren..why not again???

Like has been said before, there are a dozen or so players that can shut you out...and when these players play against each other, it is hard to back one or the other because they have the ability to win against anyone. Personally, I count Steve Davis as a player to be able to beat anyone in the world.

Just like everyone else, to be crowned World Champ, he needs to be in form and be consistant..and he is capable of it.

All the best to him.
 
Including the Mosconi Cup, Steve Davis has won three of their (him and Strickland's) last four meetings.
 
SneakyPete said:
Including the Mosconi Cup, Steve Davis has won three of their (him and Strickland's) last four meetings.
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No but, but, but. Earl's the greatest :D

Seriously, if Steve put the amount of focus in to pool that Earl does. I think he would be unstopable!
 
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9-ball is not a good game to gauge one's pool skills. It's a game that involves too much luck. That's why I don't think anyone would be able to dominate the game of 9-ball at this point in time. Steve Davis surely got game, He is a world class player that is capable of being a world champion. Not taking anything away from him, but he would also need tremendous amount of luck to achieve it.
 
3 of 10

Steve would win 3 out of 10 races to 7 versus Earl.

You can't bet against Strickland if they play, but you certainly aren't going to win every set.

-pigi
 
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piglit said:
Steve would win 3 out of 10 races to 7 versus Earl.

You can't bet against Strickland if they play, but you certainly aren't going to win every set.

-pigi
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That's amazingly accurate. How did you come to such a conclusion?

Or perhaps that's just bottom talk :D
 
Superb deduction, Watson!

I have never actually seen pro-level pool, but wanted to type something.

-pigy
 
I will give my input on this topic...... steve davis is a great snooker player...key word "snooker" look at mark williams who pots any better than him??? he cant win in 9-ball... snooker is a much different game, stroke and patterns are a lot different as well.. bigger balls everything.... also maybe if he had been playing 9-ball all his life he may have more sucess not a game u can just pick up and expect to win world titles.. thats like efren trying to win a world snooker title.. doubt it will ever happen.. although i am very impressed with steves play...just my opinion
 
thewolf said:
I will give my input on this topic...... steve davis is a great snooker player...key word "snooker" look at mark williams who pots any better than him??? he cant win in 9-ball... snooker is a much different game, stroke and patterns are a lot different as well.. bigger balls everything.... also maybe if he had been playing 9-ball all his life he may have more sucess not a game u can just pick up and expect to win world titles.. thats like efren trying to win a world snooker title.. doubt it will ever happen.. although i am very impressed with steves play...just my opinion
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I would disagree to a certain extent as the transition from pool to snooker is a hell of a lot harder than the transition from snooker to pool.

Playing snooker every now and then can help your 9 ball potting ability massively
 
Ho hum - yawn - a snooker player who isn't even at the top of his game beats up on world champions repeatedly - has won more money in his career than the top ten US professionals combined. Steve Davis has shown that he can compete with and beat the top 9-ball pros in the world. But the top nine ball pros cannot compete, cannot even qualify for the Snooker circuit.

Why wouldn't our top pros go there and try to dominate Snooker since it is so much more lucrative than pool. I mean seriously, why don't they do it? Is it because they LOVE 9-ball so much?

It is because they can't. Jim Rempe tried when he was at the top of his game and couldn't even qualify. Nine ball is a joke for the top snooker players. They routinely have to execute the same types of shots that 9-ball players do. The last six in snooker are shot in rotation JUST LIKE NINE BALL. Snooker combines elements of straight pool, one-pocket and nine ball into one game with a larger playing surface, smaller balls and smaller pockets. The pocket DO not accept balls from 2" out like pool tables do so accuracy is an absolute MUST in snooker.

Great nine ball is fantastic to watch and often the players have to come with shots that are difficult on any table but don't be deluded that it is nearly as demanding as snooker.

I have watched plenty of both and played plenty of both and my opinion is that good snooker players make great nine ball players. And I didn't even have to say the A word or the K word

:-)
John
 
Great posts from everybody! Remember what Alison and Karen are doing to the womens tour? I think that John Higgins, Mark Williams, Ronnie O'Sullivan, Stephen Hendry could do to the men in nine ball if they moved to the states. But hell those guys make 5 or 6 times what top nine ballers make in a year off of one snooker tournament win. As far as Steve Davis goes, the man is incredible. And any champion in any sport who has held the top spot for over a decade must be given his due. There should be no comparisons drawn just accolades. MMMM Now one pocket there's a different story. Those boys wouldnt stand a chance. Guess its a cultural thing. LOL!!
 
forget about 9-ball, and forget about snooker. just think of perfect form and strategy and brains, and steve davis TOWERS over the schmuck known as earl strickland!
 
Everyone is talking like world champions, but weren't we talking about world champions?

Virtually all the players thus far mentioned are "World Champions" in their own respective right.

We can compare the games and draw our opinions, but I think this starts with the nature of all billiard games. Don't you all remember, as beginners any player could win even if one was a better player than the other?

This fact of competition will never change, therefore, no matter who is playing it is a near impossiblity to didctate or predict who will or won't be the next world title holder.

To those that have accomplished a world title in any billiard dicipline, to them due repect is in order.

Which reminds me of a lesson about life (and the pursuit of excellence) in a sport. The late-great Steve Cook once said, "If the leaders of every country were to win a world billiard title, there would be peace in the world."

With many points well taken, I truly doubt this thread would have much affect on the players mentioned.
 
Chris Melling, the World 8-Ball Champion (English Pool) doesn't get the credit or respect that he deserves. You should have heard what Steve Davis said about 8-Ball once, then he said that Melling dabbles in 9-Ball, but he never mentioned that he beat him!
 
Maybe the pro 9-ball tour is about to become the tour with the old retired snooker pros :-)
 
THE SILENCER said:
forget about 9-ball, and forget about snooker. just think of perfect form and strategy and brains, and steve davis TOWERS over the schmuck known as earl strickland!
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Perfect form? Define perfect form in pool. YOU CAN'T. It doesn't exist. Look at Efren, look at Bustamante, look at Strickland, look at Fisher, look at Drago, look at all of them. They all have different forms, they all shoot extremely well. It is not because of their form. If anything, the form Steve Davis uses probably restricts him from having a powerful stroke like Earl does. Steve Davis punches the CB, Earl the Pearl strokes it. Big difference.
 
They punch at the CB?

Mate, top snooker pro's perform table length draw's with ease on their 12 footers which don't have fast cloth like Simoni's. How could they do it if they just punch without follow through...impossible! They all stroke allright. Hell, even I stroke through CB...:)

And the break...I guess pool pro's have about 20+ years of advantage in that department. Also banks, kicks and some pool specific stuff, he's lacking some compared to true pool players.

We pool players are always quick to point out that snooker players don't play pool correctly. While that is true, some of them are able to beat top 9ballers on merit in 9ball.

Earl is better at pool than Steve. Steve is however very capable of beating him as he has shown already.

But would Earl stand ANY chance at all in a snooker match against Steve?
 
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Amateur,

I agree with most of what you're saying, i.e., I'm sure Steve strokes the ball good. Having said that, snooker balls are smaller and weigh less. And, accuracy, imho, is critically important. I don't think snooker players are tuned into power stroking with pool balls. That's not to say they can't learn fast enough but I think they'll have to change their stance a little to effectively accomplish this.
 
Wow, thats odd, I'm not a pro but I can perform a table length draw on a 12x6 snooker table with the same cloth as they use. The balls weigh less. I'll guarantee you Earl can out-draw Steve on a regular pool table using pool balls.
 
When you speak of 'outdrawing' someone..don't speak of the length of your draw, but your accuracy... can you stop it on a dime?

"THe cueball will stop right here".......BAM!
 
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