Not arguing what's better or worse between bih but wanting opinions on deliberate leaves, scratching so they have to place ball behind the line, knocking the 8 out of the pocket without att purposely without attempting to contact your ball, etc. Basically you just sacrifice your turn but it is highly frowned upon in most of the local tournaments that play straight 8.
Straight 8 ethics
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Yep....just playing bar rules. Thats why ball in hand was invented. It is within the rule of the tournament. Just as ethical as purposely committing a foul by tying up balls. I assume your post was asking that question.
Where do you come up with this stuff? B-i-h rules were "invented" and implemented to speed up the game for tv...period.
Scott Lee
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Scott Lee
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Ok. Ooops. The word I meant to use was implemented. As in implemented in tournament rules. Sorry if I upset you.
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Where do you come up with this stuff??
B-I-H rules were "invented" so a bunch of road hustler one pocket players wouldn't
take 6 months to play the 9 Ball division of a tournament by pretending to attempt
a 'good hit.'
Perhaps you are thinking of the 'Texas Express' rule set.
Dale(amateur pool fact checker)
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That's why I avoid playing by silly rules that are easily manipulated to take what should be a disadvantage to an advantage. Not sure what you mean by "deliberate leaves", most players call that position play or a safety. Scratching on purpose is just fine in regular games, if you play with behind the line on a scratch and the only ball you can hit is inside the kitchen, you spot that ball. If you don't spot it, it's just an idiotic rule.
Dale...I just checked with the source of b-i-h rules, and the Texas Express rules WERE the first use of rules to implement the current ball in hand rules. I thought I was correct...and I was...and so were you.
Scott Lee
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Scott Lee
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I don't claim to know anything about the "invention" but I remember being introduced to the "ball-in-hand-anywhere" rules in about 1977 or '78. I don't remember ever hearing the term "texas express" until sometime much later, in or about the early or mid '80s.
Edit: I'm having breakfast with an old friend, a pool player, from where I used to live tomorrow morning. I'll check his memory, he's older than me and been playing longer.
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Pushout rules were used in Johnston City 9 Ball Division in 1963-ish - 1965(?) The much
unliked '3 foul - loss of game' rule was also used. Not sure which came first. I heard of
3foul before I ever heard of Pushout/ 2foul BIH.
Dale
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Soooooo... how were you correct? BIH, or specifically, Ball In Hand ANYWHERE on the
table was in use long, long, long, before "the current ball in hand rules"
Dale