Straight Grain

from what i've ever read, GB was about the only top recognized cue maker who actually started as a long-time woodworker. HR more or less did, too, since he started with BBC. So GB would naturally gravitate to wood with the best technical characteristics for cues, as opposed to "most interesting looking".

Most people who enter the trade seem to want to make "fancy" cues with exotic woods. Without a long and pretty deep understanding of how wood works and moves, that is rather fraught (almost luck) to also get a good performing cue until a lot of experience builds. So the evolution has been to core the parts. Once the process is stabilized (each makers experience-acquired understanding of what core wood type, grain, proportions, & glue yields stability and the "hit" they want to be known for) can yield relatively predictable results.

From what i see in the wild, it is ever more difficult to buy many exotics in straight grain. So it may become essential to core eventually even for full-splice and those of us who resist the notion. :cool:

One good thing - I doubt S-G maple will ever be rare, at lease in the size needed for fore-arms.

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One good thing - I doubt S-G maple will ever be rare, at lease in the size needed for fore-arms.

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The best stuff is already gone, lumbered with reckless abandon. The only way to get primo maple now is to reclaim it from an old product.
 
The best stuff is already gone

referring to "exotics" like ebony & cocobola, I find it increasingly difficult to find mild straight grain material but some still comes in.

If you are referring to maple, you live at the top of the same state i reside. The "best"(sometimes denser) may still come from MI & Canada, but "best" quality stuff grows all around us too. I just don't see it gone as far as maple. I've sold a few cues but mostly a hobbiest cue maker (made first shafts mid '80's, fell away from the game, started occasionally making sticks when i got back in a few rears ago, to try out ideas). So i just take out or add likely cue wood in regular lumber orders. There's plenty of good shafts usually buried in a 1,000 or 500 ft load of hard maple. The biggest problem sourcing it that way is that it comes KD. Which puts unbalanced stress in most of the time unless it can be aged IME about 7 years.

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referring to "exotics" like ebony & cocobola, I find it increasingly difficult to find mild straight grain material but some still comes in.

If you are referring to maple, you live at the top of the same state i reside. The "best"(sometimes denser) may still come from MI & Canada, but "best" quality stuff grows all around us too. I just don't see it gone as far as maple. I've sold a few cues but mostly a hobbiest cue maker (made first shafts mid '80's, fell away from the game, started occasionally making sticks when i got back in a few rears ago, to try out ideas). So i just take out or add likely cue wood in regular lumber orders. There's plenty of good shafts usually buried in a 1,000 or 500 ft load of hard maple. The biggest problem sourcing it that way is that it comes KD. Which puts unbalanced stress in most of the time unless it can be aged IME about 7 years.

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The best maple came from 200 year old, slow growth trees. They've all been cut down.
 
The best maple came from 200 year old, slow growth trees. They've all been cut down

Before GB's time, if that is your belief/criteria.

We would need a scientific approach to argue this productively
I'm interested in the data. No investment in right/wrong per argument.

Thinking about our deed, one huge tree well over 200 yrs old fell over just after we bought here 25 years ago. It was designated as a corner marker at the end of a field, so you can trace it back to some extent & realize that on first mention, it was already old. Maybe that was the last one? :)

You are correct that others here probably are not much over 100, & sadly in bad shape.

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straight grain and stainless steel inside the ivory (thats the closest to the criteria i could do ...:D )
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The best stuff is already gone, lumbered with reckless abandon. The only way to get primo maple now is to reclaim it from an old product.

There are plenty of great straight grain maple out there for lumberers who are willing to go deeper in the forest .

If I did not have a mountain man source, I'd be getting maple from the same major source as most makers .
They have decent maple but a lot are from young trees.
 
Eric Crisp doesn't seem to have a problem finding the good stuff...felling the trees and working them into amazing shaft wood.
 
I'm as big a fan of clear straight grain as any. It's my favorite wood in a forearm base for traditional pointed cues. Yeah it looks good and works well towards playability but my favorite reason also is it allows the focus to be on the prong work. Some nice examples shown here.
 
There are plenty of great straight grain maple out there for lumberers who are willing to go deeper in the forest

Exactly.
Usually on private lands that were not timbered for income over the years.

Firewood co we buy cordwood from are cutting on a tract up the road, so went & counted rings. Made me realize, there are still a couple on our property within 200+ range. Go into northern PA forests nearby & there's more. Cruise upstate roads, & any older property has a few in the fence rows or yard if not in the woods.

Unfortunately, hard maples are especially prone to pollution, and are dying in many areas all over, from beetle attack & other stresses exacerbated by climate change.

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My Straight Grain Meucci. Current Production. Cheap Android Picture. The trim around the points actually matches the linen wrap.
 

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Here are a couple.
 

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These are nice.....

Definitely. I really believe if you are going maple for the forearm, that straight grain overall is the best choice because it makes the veneers so vibrant and overcomes the lack of grain in the wood. I guess many would disagree, but I just think it looks the best. For a long time I found myself liking cues without even realizing it was because of the SGM.
 
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