Can someone post the link to go to that describes how to set up a table to play a game of straigt pool and then determines your skill level by how long of a run you make. I saw it here once, now I can't remember where it is. Thanks.
Straight Pool Skill Test
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there is no set way to determine your "skill level" unless what you saw was that person's own little self test. "setting up" a table doesn't mirror a true 14.1 rack because intrinsic to 14.1 are its infinite variables.
skill level in 14.1 is simple....what's your high run.
just set up as purdy says and start running balls.
i think a C player has about 30-40 high run,,,a B can run about 50-60, and A is 80-100. this is just going by A,B,and C 9ball players i know, and what their high run is. of course, if you have good strategy(14.1 IS ALL about the choices you make), you can add another 2 racks, imo. the diff between A,B, and C 9ball players is pocketing. so an A should be a great shooter. i think if an A applies himself, i can't see why he shouldn't do 130.
skill level in 14.1 is simple....what's your high run.
just set up as purdy says and start running balls.
i think a C player has about 30-40 high run,,,a B can run about 50-60, and A is 80-100. this is just going by A,B,and C 9ball players i know, and what their high run is. of course, if you have good strategy(14.1 IS ALL about the choices you make), you can add another 2 racks, imo. the diff between A,B, and C 9ball players is pocketing. so an A should be a great shooter. i think if an A applies himself, i can't see why he shouldn't do 130.
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Don P is right
The Purd-man is on the money. Just rack 'em up and start potting. One thing I will say is make sure you rack them pretty tight. I have just started out practicing straight seriously after getting slayed by wife recently and discovered that a loose rack will destroy any chance of getting a good spread.
Enjoy!
The Purd-man is on the money. Just rack 'em up and start potting. One thing I will say is make sure you rack them pretty tight. I have just started out practicing straight seriously after getting slayed by wife recently and discovered that a loose rack will destroy any chance of getting a good spread.
Enjoy!
You can also try Equal Offense. Rack 15 balls, break them in 8-ball style wide open, spot balls that went down and take a BIH behind the head string. Start shooting 14.1 style and clear the table and leave a break ball and continue, but quit if you reach a break of 20. If you miss, start over from the rack. Make 10 innings and count your score. Obviously if you reach the maximum 200 you are a world class player. If you reach more than 150, you're A player. If you score more than 100, you're still pretty good.
This is pretty easy game to determine how good you really are in straight pool. If you play this a lot, you can see a dramatic increase on your 10 inning run average.
This is pretty easy game to determine how good you really are in straight pool. If you play this a lot, you can see a dramatic increase on your 10 inning run average.
Actually there was a BCA santioned method for determining skill level, but it is not available anymore for some reason. You can go here to find out what it is/was all about. In short, "Developed as an evaluation program by a BCA instructor, the StrEight Pool International Rating Program is sanctioned by the Billiard Congress of America, and has now been fully integrated with Easypooltutor.com." They also had a websit at www.streightpool.com but that is not available either. Oh well, I guess I'll never know.
Buddha Jones said:
Set up the 14 balls with "your" perfect break shot and then see how many balls you can make in 3 innings...then start again...
when I run one of my nine ball tourneys I have a side pot where I add $50...which goes to the player who makes the most balls in three innings...
no one yet has gotten more than 75...
ajrack said:
Straight pool in practice is a funny thing. I've seen
pros setting up a break shot and blasting them open
with the intention of going for a high run and they
struggle to run more than 2 racks, then a player will
come in and they'll play the pro for a small wager
and voila, the pro runs over 100 in the first inning.
That's why most big runs happen in matches as
opposed to purposely trying to run a lot of balls in
solo practice.
Bobby
ajrack said:
I like this idea ajrack. So, every week someone wins this. Cool.
Is this side pot chance given to all the entries in the tourney or do the players have to buy a chance at it? The first inning starts with a break shot as you said, but do the next 2 innings start with a break shot or just continue after a miss? How long does this take to get through the field and does it hold up the 9ball tourney?
Sorry for all the questions. Just looking for ways to spice up our local tourney. Any additional info would be appreciated.
Rick
hustlefinger said:
After the first miss...you then continue from wherever the cue ball ends up..if the cue ball scratches, you have ball in hand...behind the line. I run this on a different table than the tourney tables, so there is no conflict with the tourney. The tourney players just take a chance when they wish..no extra fee is involved unless ALL want to add to it.
I usually do this on a 9' (sometimes on an 8' if there is no 9'), even if it is a bar box tourney! I run tourneys in many different venues.
I sometimes do a one pocket version...free open break..wherever the cue ball ends up , you now have three innings...and scratch goes behind the line and any fouled balls are spotted.
Ervolino and Jersey Red both told me that in the "old" days the normal betting line with good players was usually 15 balls. The TOP one pocket players went up to higher numbers like...18>21 !!
bruin70 said:
Hey Bruin, what's up? You must have some pretty damn good C players where you play. The C players where I play can't run more that 5 or 6 balls after a good break shot. A 30-40 high run would be good for a B player. A player that runs 130 would be triple A or pro level in my neck of the woods. Of course no one plays 14-1 here either. I'm glad I never asked you to play 14-1!!! You got me terrified!!!
Best 14.1 tournament average
special note***
the highest tournament grand average held by Willie Mosconi is only 18 balls per inning...Jim Mataya averaged only 14 balls per inning back in the early 70's and is "I think" the highest tourney average next to Willies!
special note***
the highest tournament grand average held by Willie Mosconi is only 18 balls per inning...Jim Mataya averaged only 14 balls per inning back in the early 70's and is "I think" the highest tourney average next to Willies!
hours
I try to play 14.1 in my home joint at least every day. But since no one plays that much 14.1 and the 9ball and one hole sweators hate the game no one plays it that much here and I dont get that much games. Thank god for a small bunch of east coast transplants who keep the game going. My question is this. How many hours do you 14.1 experts play a day in order to run up in the hundreds? What kind of commitment have you guys made? My high run is in the 40's but cant seem to get over the hump. I am in Southern Cal by the way.
I try to play 14.1 in my home joint at least every day. But since no one plays that much 14.1 and the 9ball and one hole sweators hate the game no one plays it that much here and I dont get that much games. Thank god for a small bunch of east coast transplants who keep the game going. My question is this. How many hours do you 14.1 experts play a day in order to run up in the hundreds? What kind of commitment have you guys made? My high run is in the 40's but cant seem to get over the hump. I am in Southern Cal by the way.
ajrack said:
I find this hard to believe. For instance, in European Championships 2003 the winner Niels Feijen averaged over 21 per inning and Thorsten Hohmann averaged over 20 even though he finished 17th. The link:
http://www.epbf.com/sportsite/2003/ECPolen/Polen.htm
In Feijen's last 4 matches in that tournament he scored a total of 500 points (4 times 125) in 14 innings. That would make an average of 35,7 balls per inning (!!)
In 2002 EC Oliver Ortmann had the highest average: 19,23
http://www.epbf.com/sportsite/2002/ECFinland/Tampere.htm
In 2001 EC Peter F. Nielsen had the (puny
) average of 17,75http://www.epbf.com/sportsite/2001/ECMen2001/Karlsbad.htm
In 2000 Thomas Engert had the average of 27,58 and Alex Lely 22,82
http://www.epbf.com/sportsite/2000/Bregenz2000/men_f_rs.htm
I would've thought Mosconi's average was higher than these...