straight rail and gather shots

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I am reading and 8-ball instructional book that talks about straight-rail sequences and 3C gather shots that really helped the authors 8-ball game but it doesn't explain the straight-rail sequence that well.

Does the straight-rail sequence involve 2 or 3 balls? Please explain how it works.

Are gather shots where you get the your white and the red to the other white? Do they have to touch or just be near each other by a certain distance?

TIA
 
ndakotan said:
I am reading and 8-ball instructional book that talks about straight-rail sequences and 3C gather shots that really helped the authors 8-ball game but it doesn't explain the straight-rail sequence that well.

Does the straight-rail sequence involve 2 or 3 balls? Please explain how it works.

Are gather shots where you get the your white and the red to the other white? Do they have to touch or just be near each other by a certain distance?

TIA
There is a 2-DVD set by Frederic Caudron that shows this sort of thing far better than anyone can explain it in text. The control he has over all three balls is astounding -- far better than you ever see on a pool table. The set is called "Master of Billiards" and is available on www.kozoom.com and www.i-billiard.com for about $60. He demonstrates six or seven different carom games.

The cover may say "Le virtuose du billard" but the audio is in three languages including English, so don't be scared off.

For books, the easiest to get are Willie Hoppe's "Billiards As It Should Be Played" and "Daly's Billiard Book." I think the first is still in print and the second is available used. I have extras of both if you can't find them elsewhere.

One on-line source that shows straight rail techniques is http://www.jimloy.com/billiard/billiard.htm which has a lot of other very useful stuff on pool and billiards.

But to answer your question directly: The author is probably talking about straight rail gather shots. The game is played with three balls. You have to make your cue ball hit both the other balls. This is easier if you leave all three balls in the same area, and this takes pretty good speed control. When you play a shot that leaves all three balls together from a scattered position, it is called a "gather shot." While 3-cushion has position play, and you often want to drive a ball 20 feet and leave it within six inches of spot for position, you don't really use gather shots.

If you want to see a master at this, get the Caudron DVD.
 
ndakotan said:
I am reading and 8-ball instructional book that talks about straight-rail sequences and 3C gather shots that really helped the authors 8-ball game but it doesn't explain the straight-rail sequence that well.

Does the straight-rail sequence involve 2 or 3 balls? Please explain how it works.

Are gather shots where you get the your white and the red to the other white? Do they have to touch or just be near each other by a certain distance?

TIA

Hi

Although Straight Rail and Balkline have different rules, the principles applies if both games.

If you are interested in this matter, please take a look at:

Weingartner Billiard Program- 76 Interesting Balkline Billiards Shots on Gathering Balls

http://wbpb.blogspot.com/

Instructions for Play

- The cue ball used is always the Yellow ball. The driven or first object ball is always the White ball. The score or second object ball is always the Red ball.

- Each shot will only count if the 3 balls land and remain in the gathering zone in accordance with the predetermined path. (the gathering zone for every shot is the green shaded box in the diagrams).

- In each CueTable diagram there are 2 pages: page 1 shows the initial layout and page 2 shows the suggested solution by Mr. Heinrich Weingartner. Use the page arrows on the lower right side to navigate pages.

- This program was originally drawn on paper 50 - 60 years ago. It can be a very interesting exercise for your mind :)

If you are interested in straight rail or 3 cushion billiards, Caudron's video is great to check out (as Bob has mentioned). There is a section where he ran 15 points as he explained each shot on video. (Kind of like Jim Rempe's How to Run 100 in Straight Pool video)

His website is: http://www.caudron.info/english/index.php
 

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the video on the web is awesome. I think i could become addicted to billiards, both the 3c and the straight rail. and I know my pool game would come up to. the local PH is thinking about converting the 5 x 10 snooker table to a billiard table. I know it is not a heated table or anything but will be alot of fun.

mike
 
If you search billiard tbc tv at google , then use translated site. click on 4 nine. This is Korean 4 ball videos lots of gather shots and hours of watch.
 
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