Straight Stroke, cue ball control, and pocket speed

Bob Jewett said:
Which is why one of the English players who used to participate in the on-line forums recommended a matchbox on its side. That allows the rocking which is normal for a still-elbow stroke (pendulum) but prevents swooping.

I think a piston stroke, which is what a bottle requires or at least encourages, is more complicated mechanically, and unless someone can come up with a real good physical argument in its favor, I think it should be avoided by beginners. Whether it helps anyone is a hard thing to determine. Jeremy Jones and Lori Jon Jones both have piston strokes, as do some top snooker players.
Thnx Bob.

I thought Jeremy Jones had a stroke-slip.
 
Bob Jewett said:
Jeremy Jones and Lori Jon Jones both have piston strokes, as do some top snooker players.

Most good snooker players have a piston stroke. Whether it is the optimal stroke for pool is another matter ...
 
BigDogatLarge said:
I wanted to thank everyone for helping me to determine what the ways of the stroke were, to improve my shooting ability. After reading the above posts I looked at the way I addressed the ball and found that I only had to make minor adjustments to my routine. I found that keeping perfectly still and breathing and being relaxed made all the difference in controling my stroke and staying on line. The proof, I beat three of the top guys in my room last night in the tournament.

Again, thanks to the seen and unseen help.

Dwight



Dwight,
I am glad that you have improved by talking to people on this forum. With that much improvement with no one seeing your stroke imagine what Randy G could do for you in a 3 day class. It really doesn't cost that much. You will see the benefits of the class pretty quickly and it will pay for it self. I took the class in Dallas last December with my brother and we have both improved rapidly, but are not yet at a real high level - key is that since we went to the class we know exactly what we are doing wrong when we miss a shot and have specific things to work on when our stroke does get a flaw. You can't get that without a really good instructor watching you play. Pool takes time - no one becomes a pro over night! Get the mother drills from Randy G and work on them everyday! Hope you can take the class.
Best of Luck
Razorback Randy
 
Razorback Randy said:
Dwight,
I am glad that you have improved by talking to people on this forum. With that much improvement with no one seeing your stroke imagine what Randy G could do for you in a 3 day class. It really doesn't cost that much. You will see the benefits of the class pretty quickly and it will pay for it self. I took the class in Dallas last December with my brother and we have both improved rapidly, but are not yet at a real high level - key is that since we went to the class we know exactly what we are doing wrong when we miss a shot and have specific things to work on when our stroke does get a flaw. You can't get that without a really good instructor watching you play. Pool takes time - no one becomes a pro over night! Get the mother drills from Randy G and work on them everyday! Hope you can take the class.
Best of Luck
Razorback Randy

Thanks Randy,

I can see the need for instruction and will, I'm sure have a chance to make time to go see Randy G or Blackjack or Scott Lee. They are all very good at what they do, not to say that the others that post here aren't. I saw the video of Mr. Jewett doing the 90 degree cut. I just have to "feel" the person in my mind to be able to learn. I am excited that I was able to use the info to improve this fast. This is a great place to come and talk and learn as well as cut up and have fun with others. Thanks to all for being here for each other, it really means something.

Dwight
 
BigDogatLarge said:
I agree with you about his teaching methods. It allowed me to "see" what he was talking about. I am usually a monkey see, monkey do kind of learner.

Dwight

If you think a one paragraph post is a good teaching method RandyG will blow your mind LOL

I am not an instructor ( though I have been thinking about learning to become one)

I surely don't want you to get the impression that what I posted is all you need to know.

I swear I didn't even scratch the surface...

the system is very deep and very robust...

Take the lessons... they will change your pool life..
 
Spf

Dwight,
No matter the method, there's only one way to get to Carnegie Hall.

Practice, Practice, Practice. And when you are tired of that Practice some more!!!!!!
Tom Gedris, Triple Cross Cues:cool:
 
I too would strongly recomment going to pool school. You would be amazed at how much your stroke will improve over a three day period. If you can't get to pool school see if Scott is traveling your way. He is an extremely good instructor.
 
kaznj said:
I too would strongly recomment going to pool school. You would be amazed at how much your stroke will improve over a three day period. If you can't get to pool school see if Scott is traveling your way. He is an extremely good instructor.
I second that.
 
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