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An intentional miss is by definition a safety. The degrees of safe are variables that can be adjusted. If I am up against a Master, it better be lock down. Against a B player, not so much.
As a Master I had a Grand Master leave me a Bait shot. I took the bait and ran out for the Match.
As a Master I had a Grand Master leave me a Bait shot. I took the bait and ran out for the Match.
I'm a shooter at best. I don't play creepy games with people's psyche. If there's nothing to shoot, safety it is.
I play a lot of 2-way shots where if I make it I have a good next shot, but if I miss you have essentially nothing.
But I rarely miss on purpose (that is not already a safety.)
But I rarely miss on purpose (that is not already a safety.)
If you miss, but leave yourself a shot, wouldn't that mean the other guy now has that shot?
boogieman
It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that ping.
Not him but an example, say you're playing 9B. You're on the 3 and have to shoot the 4 next. The 8 is in between them. You shoot the 3 to make, but control the CB so it snookers behind the 8 so if it does go in you have the 4 to shoot at next. If it doesn't go in, the other guy is snookered. It's a percentage play and play style might vary widely depending on the skill of your opponent.
1P has a ton of 2 way shots, if you miss you don't want to sell the other guy a shot.
You know EXACTLY what i'm talking about.
You know as well.An intentional miss is by definition a safety. The degrees of safe are variables that can be adjusted. If I am up against a Master, it better be lock down. Against a B player, not so much.
As a Master I had a Grand Master leave me a Bait shot. I took the bait and ran out for the Match.
I came over from Rotation pool, so E-1 knows I'm a shooter, can play position, and work the Banks well.
To answer other posts here: Straight Pool & 1-Pocket are entirely different from 8-9-10 ball. You miss just once; ya gonna be sitting in ya chair for awhile. Players I'm against I wouldn't call Masters, but they can do 200+ I'm sure. They can run to 125 from 30 or 40, so they know how to break the stack open. Some also know the Intricate combinations of frozen balls in the stack and WHERE TO HIT THEM FROM w/Whitey.
I always had a measure of respect for Straight poolers, but now having played them seriously where the gloves come off, it's true what they say about them being the B E S T.
They know me; and hence won't leave me anything but a locked safety, or the lowest percentage shot. Truly a CHALLENGE.
I added the last option in the survey b/c I forgot about the 1-pocket players that play straight pool.
They just seem to want to get to "8" in the rack count. They safe OFTEN. Seems their line of thought is if they win the rack count,(8/15) or better repeatedly they will (eventually) win the match. The ones to worry about are the ones who step on the GA$ if you miss. They out of the gate shooting like a thoroughbred, and the only thing you can do is WAIT until they miss, or WIN.
If you miss a cut-angle shot and hit it too thick; the CB will be slower than you intended and land short of where you wanted it to be.Likewise for a missed thin cut shot; it will travel further than intended. So, the other guy MAY not have a good and WON'T have the same shot had you made the pocket.
Thin cut, (1/8th ball or less) are quite common in straight pool & 1-pocket.
the discussion is about straight pool,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
my point is any time you set up your next shot but miss the current shot in 14.1 you leave the guy a shot
boogieman
It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that ping.
Yeah, sorry about that... It was late and I had about 10 tabs open in my browser. Obviously if you're playing a 2 way in straight pool it's a lot different. I'd say maybe if you're great at bank shots and they suck at them, leaving a bank may be an option but it's only going to work on certain players, and it's probably lower percentage to leave a bank than to just play a dead safe.
If you have to think about something like this playing 14.1 then both you and your opponent should find another game to play.
People looking for shortcuts and tricks should just spend more time trying to improve their own game - just like in life itself.
People looking for shortcuts and tricks should just spend more time trying to improve their own game - just like in life itself.
WobblyStroke
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You might not call them masters but they certainly have mastered the game.. c'mon man, 200+ run and not a master?
Maybe we're just getting spoiled by being able to watch the very best players in the world any time on YT. Mastery of the game comes well before those nosebleed levels imo.
It doesn't matter who I am playing. My attitude is stab em in the back and kick em on the ground.
I played a dumb shot once, Hopkins went 80 out on me.
A well known pro and great straight pool player once asked me to give Jack Colavita his phone number
because (his exact words, he needed to learn). This player ran 208 just a few days prior.
Jack knew it all and then some.
His reason for help was safety play and rack management. During a recent match he played safe off his opponents opening break and said opponent went 150 out.
Play safe, set a safety trap if you can, play everybody the same, don't play no bullcrap cutsie shots.
Kick em to the ground, keep your foot on their neck.
I played a dumb shot once, Hopkins went 80 out on me.
A well known pro and great straight pool player once asked me to give Jack Colavita his phone number
because (his exact words, he needed to learn). This player ran 208 just a few days prior.
Jack knew it all and then some.
His reason for help was safety play and rack management. During a recent match he played safe off his opponents opening break and said opponent went 150 out.
Play safe, set a safety trap if you can, play everybody the same, don't play no bullcrap cutsie shots.
Kick em to the ground, keep your foot on their neck.
You are thinking rotation games. I am thinking 8-ball games.
no, I am thinking straight pool which is what this entire thread is about,,,,,,,,,