Stroke

amazon said:
Let's not have hal in this subject shall we? Let's focus on getting something productive done for me.

To all the instructors and people out there. Continue posting.

Edit,

Incidentally I follow through all the time. The main question seems to be, how do I know when to use a punch stroke or follow stroke? And how do I execute a punch stroke when the cue ball doesn't care once the tip hits it?
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Watch this... http://youtube.com/watch?v=IpSgK5mamAA.

Almost every shot before 1:26 seconds are punch. The big stroke into the pack is smooth follow for more power and spin. Spin is a killer on a snooker table because of throw, so most top snooker players use this short follow stroke (punch) stroke. If you play good position, you don't need all of the spin. I didn't watch the rest of the video, but I know most of the shots after that will be punch.
 
Jason Robichaud said:
Watch this... http://youtube.com/watch?v=IpSgK5mamAA.

Almost every shot before 1:26 seconds are punch.
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Nonsense. Every shot has normal followthrough, sometimes as much as a foot.

Spin is a killer on a snooker table because of throw, so most top snooker players use this short follow stroke (punch) stroke.
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It's not a "short follow stroke", and it wouldn't prevent spin if it was. A straight, accurate stroke does that. Normal followthrough helps with straightness and accuracy.

pj
chgo
 
Patrick Johnson said:
Those strokes don't exist. There's only one kind of stroke. The only difference from stroke to stroke is how hard you hit the cueball. The sooner you learn this the less time you'll waste chasing myths.

Concentrate on learning to hit the cue ball accurately and consistently. That's plenty to worry about.

pj
chgo
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My oh my, am I going step into it if I get going on this one. Shall I?

Methinks not.

Cheers,

Flex
 
Patrick Johnson said:
Nonsense. Every shot has normal followthrough, sometimes as much as a foot.



It's not a "short follow stroke", and it wouldn't prevent spin if it was. A straight, accurate stroke does that. Normal followthrough helps with straightness and accuracy.

pj
chgo
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go to a snooker forum and ask about a punch stroke. I know you don't play much snooker! That was the hardest change to make moving to pool. The smoother stroke required to move the big balls. Watch the video again. They use little strokes on most shots. Watch their back swing and then the follow. Follow is much less.
 
Excellent demonstration in that video.

What I see, is a long bridge with the length of the backstroke being proportional to the speed of the shot.

slow shot=short stroke
fast shot=long stroke

This is what Jack Koehler stresses in his book. Faster speed needs a longer stroke to give the cue more accelleration time.
 
IMO, It seems there's some terminology conflict going on here.

A "punch shot" is a term often used to describe the movement
of the CB after contact, the same as a follow shot.

There is no special stroke needed to produce a drag draw or
any other shot in this game.

The only thing needed is the knowledge of where and how hard to strike the ball. (+ability)

Accelerate through the ball with the right speed and hit it in the right
place...

-cOOp
 
coopdeville said:
... A "punch shot" is a term often used to describe the movement of the CB after contact, the same as a follow shot. ...
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Is it then the same as a stun shot? That is, a stop shot at an angle?
 
Dead Crab said:
Excellent demonstration in that video.

What I see, is a long bridge with the length of the backstroke being proportional to the speed of the shot.

slow shot=short stroke
fast shot=long stroke

This is what Jack Koehler stresses in his book. Faster speed needs a longer stroke to give the cue more acceleration time.
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The follow through is normally longer for a faster stroke as well. That's the reason you often see elbows drop a little at the end of power strokes.
 
coopdeville:
... A "punch shot" is a term often used to describe the movement of the CB after contact, the same as a follow shot. ...
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Is it then the same as a stun shot? That is, a stop shot at an angle?
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Or a "stun runthrough" (partial roll follow)?

pj
chgo
 
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