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champ2107

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a couple months ago i changed my stroke up a bit and still not 100% comfortable with it, but getting there. Do you guys see anything that i might need to tweak?

I originally made this for someone to show how to go from a cte/pro1 visual and straight to a 1/2 tip offset pivot position. ignore the postings on the video and i don't normally place my cue up to the cue ball when im standing, i just did that to help with the visuals.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoUt5arTluA&list=UULo0Kbj9BCnIvTPRO6NZvag&index=1&feature=plcp
 
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Stroke

Stroke wise your stroke seems quick. Have you tried slowing down a little? Have you tried adding any pauses in your timing?

Try Set Pause Finish.
After your lined up and have done your practice strokes bring your tip back to the cue ball and have a slight hesitation/pause here. Then pull back and have another slight hesitation/pause here. Then Finish is a good smooth follow through.

These pauses give us time for a transition. Along with giving us time to adjust our eyes to the target.
 
i actually do shoot slower if im playing serious, but i have been trying to really slow it down lately though and started 14-1 to help fix the speed part.

Does the elbow look good,etc?
 
I think that if you're really serious about wanting an effective critique, you have to show more than two shots. Plus, you really should show yourself actually playing.

Sometimes when players shoot the same shot over and over again, they do things differently than when they're actually playing.
 
RWOJO said:
These pauses give us time for a transition. Along with giving us time to adjust our eyes to the target.
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The transition is a small period of time between when the tricep muscle pulls the cue back(pause)and then the biscep muscle pulls the cue forward. This pause is different period of time for each individual. You will have to determine the pause time that is comfortable for your rythm.

Also, and I may be mistaken, your head when down in the shooting position looked like it was tilted to the right a little. The lighting there is bad.

I'm not an instructor. Just someone who is striving for excellence in the game.

John
 
FranCrimi said:
I think that if you're really serious about wanting an effective critique, you have to show more than two shots. Plus, you really should show yourself actually playing.

Sometimes when players shoot the same shot over and over again, they do things differently than when they're actually playing.
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well it wasn't initially meant for the purpose of getting my stroke critiqued, when i uploaded it, i later thought why not put it in here and see what happens. I will try and put a longer one on for you, what tips can you give me about showing it to you guys on video? what exactly do you need to see so i will know what to show you?
 
One Pocket John said:
The transition is a small period of time between when the tricep muscle pulls the cue back(pause)and then the biscep muscle pulls the cue forward. This pause is different period of time for each individual. You will have to determine the pause time that is comfortable for your rythm.

Also, and I may be mistaken, your head when down in the shooting position looked like it was tilted to the right a little. The lighting there is bad.

I'm not an instructor. Just someone who is striving for excellence in the game.

John
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well i shoot cte/pro1 99.9 % of the time, so my head maybe tilted or you may have seen a pivot.
 
champ2107 said:
well it wasn't initially meant for the purpose of getting my stroke critiqued, when i uploaded it, i later thought why not put it in here and see what happens. I will try and put a longer one on for you, what tips can you give me about showing it to you guys on video? what exactly do you need to see so i will know what to show you?
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I can only speak for myself but I prefer to see a player actually shooting, whether it's trying to run the table or playing 9 ball....whatever...but something other than just shooting the same shot over and over.

How a player moves from shot to shot is important to me in analyzing someone's game, among other things that are revealed when a player actually plays.

I'd rather see a video of someone playing that's too long rather than too short. But that's just me. You seem to be getting responses here so if those give you what you need, then just go with that.
 
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I think it's useful to see misses and positional errors in order to help ascertain what you're doing wrong when you're playing poorly. A week ago I had an awful session of snooker and halfway through I set up my camera phone to tape some shots to find out what I was doing wrong. The result was an adjustment to my grip hand position which has made a big difference in my consistency and I expect I will improve further as I get used to the way things feel now.
 
ok, so i will slow down, ,stay a little more still while shooting and don't pop up so quick after i shoot. I will work on that and then put another video on here soon, thanks a bunch :thumbup:
 
Neil...There is NO way to tell when his elbow starts moving in that video. First, you'd have to 'highlight' the elbow (with an additional lighting source, like I use), and most important, you must view it in slow motion. IMO the elbow drop is entirely unnecessary in Champ's stroke. That said, I agree with all the other advice you gave.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

Neil said:
Drops a little, but from what I could tell on that video, it is after contact.
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