Stunning Esoteric "Flame" Cue!

[John Oxygen]

Hi, From Airport Steve, here in Las Vegas,

My handle on AZBilliards is “John Oxygen” I’m an Independent broker of Esoteric Cues, that will be providing new offerings in the custom cue space.


Esoteric Cue #248. For your review. This latest offering from the esoteric shop, will not disappoint!

This 4 point Gabon ebony, accompanied w/4 “flame” veneers, complements a beautiful piece of highly figured, select fiddleback hard maple forearm, into an elforyn super tusk collar with a black juma joint, and a 3/8-14 flat face, stainless steel pin.

This “Flame Cue” features 28 elforyn super tusk inlays, including 4 razor boxes, and an elforyn super tusk Hoppe ring in the butt. Black juma butt cap, w/recessed push-in rubber bumper. Rick finishes off the handle with a white and green spec, polished irish linen wrap.

The two shafts are made of high quality Canadian select hard rock maple, with elforyn super tusk collars and super tusk ferrules, measuring .5 inch, with a flex point of 6.5 inches. G2 medium tips have been installed w/red pads. Rick always “case hardens” all of his tips and seals all of his ferrules. The tips last longer, play better and the ferrules never get ingrained with chalk.

This cue exudes class, coupled with a yesteryear traditional look. Rick’s points are meticulous. Furthermore, with a 19 3/8 inch forward balance point, this cue’s playability in regards to moving the cue ball, is effortless. Cue is dead straight, together or apart, and rolls perfect.

This cue can be seen, on the For Sale link on AZBilliards.

Thank you for your consideration, “Airport Steve” in Las Vegas. If you have questions, email me directly, stygen77@yahoo.com



Here are the specs:

Butt: 15.55 oz. Length: 29 in. Butt Cap Diameter: 1.27 in. with a parabolic taper.

Handle: White and green spec polished irish linen.



Shaft #1 3.95 oz. Ferrule 13.08 mm 29 in. Garolite LE insert.

Shaft #2 3.55 oz. Ferrule 13.06 mm 29 in. Garolite LE insert.

Joint: .850 in. Black juma, w/elforyn super tusk collars.

Balance point: 19 3/8 in. from back of butt.

Pin: 3/8-14 stainless steel.

 

[Bob Farr]

Stunning says it all sir!
Just curious. When you say 6.5 inch flex point, what are you referring to?

 

[scdiveteam]

Stunning says it all sir!
Just curious. When you say 6.5 inch flex point, what are you referring to?

Hi Bob,

If you hold a shaft on the very ends with your thumb on the bottom and first two fingers on top then bend the shaft you will observe the flex point.

Your bridge hand acts as a steady rest while hitting the cue ball. During the hit if the flex point is aft of your bridge it will cause severe squirt when using side english because when the tip contacts the cue ball, for a short time the ball and the tip stay together. This is called an elastic collision.

If the flex point is in or near your bridge this is the desired shaft taper geometry. If the flex point is behind your bridge and you are not hitting center ball the bend in the shaft will cause the tip to move hair on the cue ball and cause squirt. The harder you hit the ball the more squirt you will get.

So if you have a shaft the bends behind your bridge hand and the squirt happens and it misses the pocket, the player will think he aimed wrong or did not compensate for the English correctly. With a bad shaft geometry the player will keep adjusting and will never improve until he gets a shaft he can gain confidence in sinching a shot at will without squirt. It is a matter of confidence , measured stroke, engineering and physics.

If your are playing with a shaft that bends behind your bridge, it is the biggest reason your game is not getting better.

My taper flex point is at about 6.5. This varies a little because wood varies as it is an organic material.

When I use Kielwood to produce a shaft with the same taper at 13 mm the flex point moves about 1 or 1.5 inches closer the the tip end. Even better for reducing squirt.

If you are hitting the ball way too hard all the time with English you are doomed even with a perfect taper geometry.

As Mosconi preached, "Soft and Softer"

I hope this answered your question but if I have created more questions please feel free to call me at 847 641 0276 anytime.

Rick

 

[7stud]

Butt Cap Diameter: 1.27 in. with a parabolic taper.

Does a parabolic taper mean that the butt stays fatter longer as the butt tapers down to the joint v. a straight taper from the butt to the joint? Is the motivation for a parabolic taper to make the grip area thicker without having to make the end of the butt so fat? Is that a weight thing? I actually hold a 58" cue at the very end of the butt, and I like it to be fat, e.g 1.28 inches.

 

[scdiveteam]

Does a parabolic taper mean that the butt stays fatter longer as the butt tapers down to the joint v. a straight taper from the butt to the joint? Is the motivation for a parabolic taper to make the grip area thicker without having to make the end of the butt so fat? Is that a weight thing? I actually hold a 58" cue at the very end of the butt, and I like it to be fat, e.g 1.28 inches.

The end of the butt is 1.238. The A Joint ( 1.008) to nose is conical or a straight taper. The curve geometry is from the A Joint to the end of the butt which makes the handle slightly thinner.

 

[JoeyInCali]

The end of the butt is 1.38. The A Joint ( 1.008) to nose is conical or a straight taper. The curve geometry is from the A Joint to the end of the butt which makes the handle slightly thinner.

The handle taper/growth is .230? Or is it .372?
The forearm taper/growth is .168? .840 to 1.008?

 

[scdiveteam]

The handle taper/growth is .230? Or is it .372?
The forearm taper/growth is .168? .840 to 1.008?

Thanks Joey,

Typo, it should have said 1.238.

You can kinda see the sweeping parabolic taper in this butt sleeve pic. So the handle is a little thinner by design.

Rick

 

[JoeyInCali]

Thanks Joey,

Typo, it should have said 1.238.

You can kinda see the sweeping parabolic taper in this butt sleeve pic. So the handle is a little thinner by design.

RickView attachment 644350

I worked on a famous brand parabolic tapered cue three weeks ago.
The forearm had a pronounce curve . .828 to 1.048. The handle had a slighter curve . Bottomed at 1.248.
So, the first twelve inches had .220 of taper . And the 16.750" handle had .200" taper.
For whatever that is worth .
DPK and Bender are close to those numbers too afaik.