Did I fail to mention this event is about *high* runs?
Lou Figueroa
could of sworn
I covered that, lol
SVB to Kick Off High Run Attempts
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Did I fail to mention this event is about *high* runs?
Lou Figueroa
could of sworn
I covered that, lol
Don't know yet.
But I will say that we have a commitment from a world champion to participate late next month and into the early days of January. We also have strong interest from another world champion and Ruslan has said he wants to come back for more. So all I can say at this juncture is to standby and for Bob to go stock up on groceries.
Lou Figueroa
That’s great Lou, it’s been a good sweat. Lots of old guys who can play are sweating it as I mentioned. Pretty cool stuff. Pat Fleming mentioned it on a stream the other night as well. You have the attention of the elite and regular players too.
I’m just busting balls about the math, what’s really interesting is the difference in styles and how certain players will approach a super high run. And who has the mental strength when it gets high.
I discussed that with the guy I mentioned to you. He said “in the middle of a high run your cruising along, the last rack in (for example) a race to 150 the pockets get a little tighter down the stretch”. His words not mine. I understand what he means.
Have a good weekend
Fatboy
Any thoughts on inviting any female players?
Yes, we would very much like to have women participate and so far we have commitments from two.
But they're not in country at the moment so we'll have to wait a bit.
Lou Figueroa
I think that’s great! Looking forward to seeing that, I really hope that happens.
So, if you are getting horse facked, but don’t have to pay for it, that’s okay?
Why are you not posting a distribution (or a listing) of all of each player's runs, not just listing the high runs? This should be extremely easy to do. Which is more interesting information -- (1) SVB had 16 runs of 100 or more (what you have shown us) or (2) a distribution of all of his runs to paint a picture of how his attempts went? A lot of interesting information can be derived from this event, but not so much if you just give us the high runs.
gerryf has done good work in showing us run stats based on software scans, but I, and I think he, thought we would be getting the actual information from people on site keeping track of things.
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Lou, I noted your official listing of SVB's high runs
Oct 31: 241
Nov 01: 253
Nov 02: 169, 164, 163
Nov 03: 184, 159, 154
Nov 04: 308, 210, 196, 159, 154, 112
Nov 05: 295, 154
My scans agree with most of your numbers.
Nov 1: 253 is one of the runs not on video, so maybe it should have an asterisk next to it. I think that was initially reported as a 257, and a correction of 4 seems an odd revision to make?
Nov 2: 169 has the video start midway through the third rack. Asterisk?
Nov 4. The 308, 210, 196, and 112 are correct. The 159 and 154 are incorrect. There were no runs of 159 and 154 recorded that day. (There was a 159 and 154 the previous day as you listed for Nov 3..)
Nov 5th: The 154 should be 155.
I redid my scans, and didn't filter out some of the low-value runs.
SVB's overall BPI was 63. His best day was Day 3, with a BPI of 81, but the other four days were all 56-62.
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SVB's overall BPI was 63. His best day was Day 3, with a BPI of 81, but the other four days were all 56-62.
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Lou, before you read this you need to know I respect who you are and what you've done in the billiards world but...
You need to pull your head out of your ass and listen to what people are saying.
If you're spending ALL THIS TIME doing this then, do it right or don't do it all :/
The fact you are manipulating numbers "for this reason or that reason" (and that's exactly what's happening, whether intentional or not) is a load of crap. Let's face it, you started this because of your disdain for JS et al. and I think you've seen enough of my posts that I applaud you for that but don't make it about you, make it about pool
I get the whole 100+ thing, but you're missing out on some incredible data for the wrong reasons 
Wow, who's numbers are off, yours or the event promoters? How is this event supposed to be taken seriously if the promoters can't keep track of the score correctly?
Ok, so I plead your case and we will try our best to keep all the numbers for future attempts.
For the past attempts, as I said, we're in this for the high runs and most of the lower runs have been erased because that's not what we're interested in. But going forward we'll try to keep track of all the attempts and post them up.
It's the best I can do.
Lou Figueroa
Thanks for that, but from our point of view, we're not all that interested in the lower runs.
So perhaps, amongst those guys who do care about the stats, at least one of you've take on keeping track and post the numbers you're interested in.
Lou Figueroa
Lou, before you read this you need to know I respect who you are and what you've done in the billiards world but...
You need to pull your head out of your ass and listen to what people are saying.
If you're spending ALL THIS TIME doing this then, do it right or don't do it all :/
The fact you are manipulating numbers "for this reason or that reason" (and that's exactly what's happening, whether intentional or not) is a load of crap. Let's face it, you started this because of your disdain for JS et al. and I think you've seen enough of my posts that I applaud you for that but don't make it about you, make it about pool
Chili, we're doing it "right" as we see it and what we're seeing, in just the couple of related threads so far, is that no matter what we do we're going to take flak and make some folks unhappy.
We knew that upfront and now it's pretty much been validated but we're going to press on. Making everyone happy is not our goal, never was, never could. And where do you get that we're manipulating numbers? Those are conspiracies being floated by some of the trolls here. We're trying to be forthright and present things as they are but some guys don't believe us and there's not much I can do, or care to do, because that is never going to change.
What we care about is world class players going for 14.1 high runs and seeing what happens -- that's it. Regardless, as I just posted a few minutes ago, we're going to try and accommodate those interested in more data. But of course I expect more kvetching anyways despite our best efforts. As someone just texted me,"They're just trying to bust your balls."
Lou Figueroa
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If an important number is put up we will scrutinize the recording for an accurate count -- we don't care about the little numbers ; -)
Lou Figueroa
Thank you.
It is unrealistic to ask any one AzB member to sit at his computer and keep track of every run attempt for many hours a day for many days in a row. But at the event site, there is always someone present, such as the racker, who can jot down the runs. You could even give a pencil and piece of paper to the player to do so, although that would not be my first choice of method.