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[HollyWood]

Danny Janes, Mottey,Schick,Gilbert and Richard Blk

All(these cuemakers) became more famous because, The cues were high end not low end cues,the players were using !!! and easily identifible and (They were inscribed- World champion Nick Varner, or Alan Hopkins ,or Steve Mizerak ,Mike Segal - Tell the Other sponsors to step up! Look at Shannon Daltons cue- mention his name and you picture (the South with cannon balls- cannons etc. Everyone knows it's a gilbert. Like in golf- sponsorship is key!! Thanks JB for all the help for players. I know you are a player a heart- even the case makers should work more with shorts stops and hustlers- league players not just tournment players- I am speaking for Jeese engles- there are only 20 players in the world better than this kid! JB consider a nice case for Jeese Engles - because he will do you proud. Put his name and your sponsors on it. and don't forget a small case for me. Please even consider putting him in some big events,as his sponsor. He has already proved he can beat anyone in the world. And he ain't done yet. His future is great- and he is all Natural!! Have a great Holiday everyone- looking forward to your response next wk- think about the case and pm me. Mark

 

[kvinbrwr]

All(these cuemakers) became more famous because, The cues were high end not low end cues,the players were using !!! and easily identifible and (They were inscribed- World champion Nick Varner, or Alan Hopkins ,or Steve Mizerak ,Mike Segal - Tell the Other sponsors to step up! Look at Shannon Daltons cue- mention his name and you picture (the South with cannon balls- cannons etc. Everyone knows it's a gilbert. Like in golf- sponsorship is key!! Thanks JB for all the help for players. I know you are a player a heart- even the case makers should work more with shorts stops and hustlers- league players not just tournment players- I am speaking for Jeese engles- there are only 20 players in the world better than this kid! JB consider a nice case for Jeese Engles - because he will do you proud. Put his name and your sponsors on it. and don't forget a small case for me. Please even consider putting him in some big events,as his sponsor. He has already proved he can beat anyone in the world. And he ain't done yet. His future is great- and he is all Natural!! Have a great Holiday everyone- looking forward to your response next wk- think about the case and pm me. Mark

Mark

3 reasons top cue makers don't supply cues to players:

1) Pool has zero exposure

2) Players historically haven't had enough class to actually PROMOTE the product they were supplied

3) The players quite often turn around and sell the cue the maker gave them. Mosconi was famous for this (even to the point of asking makers to supply him) and everybody after him thought it was an acceptable practice.

Thanks

Kevin

 

[kvinbrwr]

I have no idea who you are. Maybe you don't know who I am. That's cool. Because I do know what I have done in 20+ years of being in this business, who I have sponsored, who my friends in the biz have sponsored and what it's like on the road.

So before you jump up to tell me about the pool business maybe you should do your homework.

All I know is that I put money and product into player's hands. What tournaments did you get on TV in to show off the brands you were sponsored by?

John

You GIVE me a case like the one in your current posts and I'll tell EVERYBODY I come in contact with (maybe 100 people a year) that you made it. I think I can supply you with 40 pool players a year that would buy a case "if they had the money".

I know you are wondering what this will cost you in cash, but, today only, I'll offer you this deal with zero added money. After today I'm going to Jack and Whitten.

Thanks (and waiting)

Kevin

 

[Banks]

Huh, are you high?

The person who posted that Shane is NOT using a Cuetec shaft using the title - "Just the facts". So no, it's on the people who REPORT things as facts when they don't know them to be facts.

It's people who report nonsense like this that makes it sound like all pool players are untrustworthy.

They aren't and I know that. But you are a fool if you think that the people who sponsor players aren't monitoring the online conversations about their brands. And whether you would want to work with someone who would fire someone based on a report on a message board is not relevant. The point is that people should really NOT report things AS FACT if they don't know that it's a fact or not. Because doing so COULD be harmful even if it's not maliciously done.

You're the ONLY guy in this thread using the words "lying, thieving, scumbags" to describe pool players. Apparently YOU have some "issues" that you need to work out.

All I said is that UNLESS, UNLESS a person knows FOR A FACT that a player is NOT using the cue he is sponsored with then he should consider either not saying anything OR at least making it known that it's his OPINION. That way OTHER PEOPLE who read it will know that the opinion requires some backup to be taken as fact or some rebuttal from others so that it can be dismissed.

Because the KNOCK can have consequences. Whether or not those consequences are justified or deserved is another topic. But Shane should not have to FADE people picking up his cue at events and then having people come on here and say that they know FOR A FACT that he is not using Cuetec cues when they aren't even up to speed on what model of Cuetec Shane is using and the fact that Shane is using a wood shaft MADE BY CUETEC.

Got it?

I doubt it, but I am sure other readers will understand.

Here, let me repeat myself since you obviously did not "get it" the first time.

Read your first post - you sit there and question the "pathological need to knock someone's action". What kind of moronic question is that? Knock his action? If he's not using what he's paid to use by a pool industry company(which we all know is flush with $$$), then he'd get what he'd deserve. The guy was incorrect and such was pointed out. Maybe you didn't quite "get" that?

Shane isn't fading jack, he's doing whatever the heck he pleases. That includes keeping his word, obviously, and living up to his obligations. Maybe that's not something that you're accustomed to seeing or dealing with, I don't know.

I could care less if nobody else picks up on you having a fit about the possibility of players being called on taking advantage of endorsements. I don't have issues with inquiries about whether or not someone is using the equipment that they're contractually obligated to use. You think it's a bad thing and that it "knocks" someone trying to pull one over on an industry company. I'd say you have some issues to sort out, but if that's the way that you think then I highly doubt it's a problem for you.

 

[MahnaMahna]

Let's just say Shane is not using a Cuetec while sponsored by them (or any player in this situation)....

So someone notices that he is not using a Cuetec.

Someone posts that Shane is not using a Cuetec on this forum.

A forum where people discuss all aspects of the game of pool, including equipment.

Someone from Cuetec notices the thread and drops Shane from the brand sponsorship.

And this is the person's fault who started the thread, not Shane's fault for not using a Cuetec??????

Stupid.

 

[trustyrusty]

When I met Shane in 2006 he was using the Joss cue that has "SHANE" spelled out in the points that Danny Janes made for him when he was kid. Around 2007ish he switched to mainly playing with his mom's Schon R4. Sometimes he used the Joss shaft on the Schon butt and then eventually went to a Schon shaft.

Since he signed the Cuetec deal I can't recall him playing with anything else. I do know he doesnt travel with anything but the Cuetec cues. At least at any event I have seen him at that I can remember.

I have hit with all of Shane's cues over the years and the funny thing is the Cuetec plays better than both the Joss and the Schon he was using. IMO of course. The Joss shaft on the Schon butt hit just exactly like shit. Pretty sure it was because the shaft and joint weren't flush.

As long as I'm writing a novel on Shane's cues here's a funny story: When he first started playing with his first Cuetec (black with shiny silver decals Nasty said it looked like a fishing lure) the damn thing had to weigh 22oz. I mentioned it and he just shrugged and kept on rolling then in Florida at the Mizerak a few more people asked how he could play with something that heavy. I am setting up for a stream and look over at Shane, the night before the event, taking what looked like ten weight bolts out of the ass end of his cue. When he was done it probably weighed 17 ounces. It had me cracking up.

His current cue is a straight black R360 that weighs I would guess in the 18's with a sliver of a Kamui hard tip on it. Thing hits hard as hell. Shane could beat the world playing with a fishing rod if the check was right.

Justin,

a couple of years ago at the Derby, Shane came into the action room where me and Beav were hitting a few balls on the barbox....I think we had a shot set up (trying to hit it), and Shane took my cue and knocked it in like it was nothing. Not a practice stroke, or a couple of shots with my cue...just nailed it first try. He shot a few more with it, and handed it back...and it went back to being the same ole Jacoby in MY hands, lol. That was the year I picked up the OB Break cue from you, and I'd bet he'da nailed the shot with it as well (even with the Samsara break tip). He's SICK!

 

[JB Cases]

Here, let me repeat myself since you obviously did not "get it" the first time.

Read your first post - you sit there and question the "pathological need to knock someone's action". What kind of moronic question is that? Knock his action? If he's not using what he's paid to use by a pool industry company(which we all know is flush with $$$), then he'd get what he'd deserve. The guy was incorrect and such was pointed out. Maybe you didn't quite "get" that?

Shane isn't fading jack, he's doing whatever the heck he pleases. That includes keeping his word, obviously, and living up to his obligations. Maybe that's not something that you're accustomed to seeing or dealing with, I don't know.

I could care less if nobody else picks up on you having a fit about the possibility of players being called on taking advantage of endorsements. I don't have issues with inquiries about whether or not someone is using the equipment that they're contractually obligated to use. You think it's a bad thing and that it "knocks" someone trying to pull one over on an industry company. I'd say you have some issues to sort out, but if that's the way that you think then I highly doubt it's a problem for you.

No, one more time for the SLOW people. Knocking in this instance is WHEN someone says "for a fact" that x-player is not using x-brand.

Is it so hard for you to understand the difference between an observation that is unconfirmed and a fact that can be proven?

It isn't the INQUIRY that is the problem. Are you REALLY this dense?

It's the reporting when the person doing the report is NOT SURE but claims to "have the facts".

Do I need to repeat this for you again?

Let's try this again:

What cue is Shane using?

Answer 1.: I was at the last match Sean Wonderpro played and looked at his cue and it's DEFINITELY not a Supertec.

What conclusion do you draw from that statement?


Answer 2.: I was at the last match Sean Wonderpro played and the shaft of his didn't look the Supertec shafts I am used to seeing.

What conclusion do you draw from that statement?

I really wonder sometimes seeing the low-quality of the comprehension by some of the people here if it's just the education system or some sort of willful stupidity that keeps them from figuring out the basic logic in human interactions.

The three states of knowledge are, I know, I am partially sure, I don't know at all.

If you don't know or only partially know then MAKE THAT CLEAR.

Don't say you KNOW when you DON'T KNOW because that sort of knock can have consequences. Is that so hard to figure out?

 

[JB Cases]

When I met Shane in 2006 he was using the Joss cue that has "SHANE" spelled out in the points that Danny Janes made for him when he was kid. Around 2007ish he switched to mainly playing with his mom's Schon R4. Sometimes he used the Joss shaft on the Schon butt and then eventually went to a Schon shaft.

Since he signed the Cuetec deal I can't recall him playing with anything else. I do know he doesnt travel with anything but the Cuetec cues. At least at any event I have seen him at that I can remember.

I have hit with all of Shane's cues over the years and the funny thing is the Cuetec plays better than both the Joss and the Schon he was using. IMO of course. The Joss shaft on the Schon butt hit just exactly like shit. Pretty sure it was because the shaft and joint weren't flush.

As long as I'm writing a novel on Shane's cues here's a funny story: When he first started playing with his first Cuetec (black with shiny silver decals Nasty said it looked like a fishing lure) the damn thing had to weigh 22oz. I mentioned it and he just shrugged and kept on rolling then in Florida at the Mizerak a few more people asked how he could play with something that heavy. I am setting up for a stream and look over at Shane, the night before the event, taking what looked like ten weight bolts out of the ass end of his cue. When he was done it probably weighed 17 ounces. It had me cracking up.

His current cue is a straight black R360 that weighs I would guess in the 18's with a sliver of a Kamui hard tip on it. Thing hits hard as hell. Shane could beat the world playing with a fishing rod if the check was right.

There you go folks. Please frame this one for reference. There is probably not another person on AZB who has seen Shane playing pool up close and personal for more hours than this man and he has the video to back it up.