It's been a long time since I played with Talisman, but IIRC the Talisman Pro soft hit similar to a Moori medium. And the Talisman Pro medium seemed very hard compared to a Moori medium. Talisman water buffalo tips seem to hit softer than Moori's, comparing grade to grade. JMO.jdelcue@emory.e said:
Switch from hard to soft tip, worthwhile?
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Looking forward to the trials
Pat Diveney is building a custom for me as we speak and he will be installing Snipers in both shafts based upon the reve reviews here in AZ. I have tried the Morri meds., and I did not care for them. I have used Le Pros for some time so I guess you can say I am a hard tip kind of guy. Only time will tell, but if they are half as good after break in, I guess I will be a happy camper.
Hanky
Pat Diveney is building a custom for me as we speak and he will be installing Snipers in both shafts based upon the reve reviews here in AZ. I have tried the Morri meds., and I did not care for them. I have used Le Pros for some time so I guess you can say I am a hard tip kind of guy. Only time will tell, but if they are half as good after break in, I guess I will be a happy camper.
Hanky
Hard tips-soft tips
I believe there are alot of good tips out there layered and non-layered, but it comes down to performance with me. The moori slow(soft) is hard to beat. Ive used snipers(definitely a hard tip) everests(hard) triangles, water buffalos, and elkmasters (pressed). As everyone else says the harder tips are more accurate but the soft tips have that amazing grab and hardly ever miscue, the moori soft provides both accuracy and unbeatable feel without being mushy. Everyone should post what type of joint the cue that you are putting the tip on so we will know whether it is a stiff hitting cue or say a wood to wood joint which tends to make harder tips feel much softer. Bottom line is personal preference, but there are alot of sales pitch artists on here trying to pump up there business, so be guided accordingly. Moori is still the tip that all others are judged by, in my opinion.
I believe there are alot of good tips out there layered and non-layered, but it comes down to performance with me. The moori slow(soft) is hard to beat. Ive used snipers(definitely a hard tip) everests(hard) triangles, water buffalos, and elkmasters (pressed). As everyone else says the harder tips are more accurate but the soft tips have that amazing grab and hardly ever miscue, the moori soft provides both accuracy and unbeatable feel without being mushy. Everyone should post what type of joint the cue that you are putting the tip on so we will know whether it is a stiff hitting cue or say a wood to wood joint which tends to make harder tips feel much softer. Bottom line is personal preference, but there are alot of sales pitch artists on here trying to pump up there business, so be guided accordingly. Moori is still the tip that all others are judged by, in my opinion.
I agree that you need to let a new tip break in. I play with Moori Slow tips (the softest Moori) and I don't find them to hit that soft and after you've played with them for a while I would call the hit a medium hit and it really suits me. I keep reading about Sniper tips and I want to try one, but i'm satisfied with my Moori Slow tips so I can't see a reason to change. One of these days I'm going to try a Sniper tip just to see what all this talk about them is about.Klopek said:Good call. The first time using a Sniper I shot with it for about three hours and didn't like it. Cut it off the same day and put a hard tip back on. I've recently read a couple threads that mentioned the Sniper needs some extra time to break in properly. Wish I knew that before I cut an expensive tip off and tossed it in the trash.
This is why I'm considering giving it another shot, only this time I won't quit on it so soon.
I sell more Moori M's than any other tip. But if I can get a player to try the Moori S and play with it until it is broke in they rarely go back. The same goes for the Sniper, those who play with them for many hours really like them. If your Sniper is making a tink sound I would guess it was installed wrong. I have not known mine to make any kind of odd noise.
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Hard tips vs Sniper?
I just had Jack Madden make me two new shafts from fiddle back maple. One weighs 3.9 oz and the other, 4.0 oz. At my request he also replaced the water buffalow extra hard tips with Sniper tips, shaped a tad less than a nickel. One tip was cut back slightly while the other was full thickness. I played them both inter changing after several hours of play on each trying to determine which provided for me the best feel and spin control (critical in bank pool)
After approx. twenty hours of play with each shaft I have concluded both offer extraordinary capability. As everyone says, my experience is the same. They do tend to feel soft initially, but somehow that changes to a firm hit with incredible results. Now it seems, they both perform better than my prior tips. I have yet to miscue and I am shooting so much low english that I think I will slice my cloth. Why it does not miscue is something I don't understand but it just doesn't! I have yet to shape the tips from when installed. They don't need it! Also, they hold chalk well and do not glaze. An absolutely awesome tip. No wonder Efren Reyes plays it!
"Cross-Side-Larry"
"Learn from the best, and beat the rest".
Klopek said:Been using a hard tip for a while with satisfactory results. Interested in giving the Sniper another go but I know they're a lot softer than what I'm used to. I can spin the cueball a little easier with the sniper but feel I sacrifice long distance accuracy and some degree of feel. Is this all in my head, or is there some truth in this instinct?. Am I better off sticking with the harder tips or is the Sniper that good?. Cory?
I just had Jack Madden make me two new shafts from fiddle back maple. One weighs 3.9 oz and the other, 4.0 oz. At my request he also replaced the water buffalow extra hard tips with Sniper tips, shaped a tad less than a nickel. One tip was cut back slightly while the other was full thickness. I played them both inter changing after several hours of play on each trying to determine which provided for me the best feel and spin control (critical in bank pool)
After approx. twenty hours of play with each shaft I have concluded both offer extraordinary capability. As everyone says, my experience is the same. They do tend to feel soft initially, but somehow that changes to a firm hit with incredible results. Now it seems, they both perform better than my prior tips. I have yet to miscue and I am shooting so much low english that I think I will slice my cloth. Why it does not miscue is something I don't understand but it just doesn't! I have yet to shape the tips from when installed. They don't need it! Also, they hold chalk well and do not glaze. An absolutely awesome tip. No wonder Efren Reyes plays it!
"Cross-Side-Larry"
"Learn from the best, and beat the rest".